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What exactly are we trying to achieve at kick-ins?

TOT70

TOT70

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This has made me wild all season. We regualrly concede goals to the other team when they score a point and, annoyingly, when we score one as well. Given our penchant for missing shots at goal, this becomes a real issue.

At their kick-ins, our obsession is to protect the corridor at all costs. So we let the opposition run the ball out of defence at will. All they have to do is run to the boundary and our "defence" will let them run as far as they like. They can then pass to a leading player whose opponent is protecting the corridor side and letting him go to the boundary on his own. Shot at goal soon follows.

At our kick-ins, we go out to the boundary and the first possession puts it back into the corridor, usually within a kick of their goal. Then subsequent kicks switch from side to side and back into the corridor, again within a kick or so of the other goal. Eventually they stuff it up and someone runs into an open goal on the turnover.

Why can't we run the ball along the boundary like everyone else does? And why can't we stop the quick run along the boundary like everyone else does?

Sometimes coaches are too smart by half.

This has cost us several games this season already.
 
I watch opposition sides against Richmond kick in & before you know it its on their forwardline.When we kick in we witness a zig zag,mish mash plan than generally results in a turnover.
 
mb64 said:
I watch opposition sides against Richmond kick in & before you know it its on their forwardline.When we kick in we witness a zig zag,mish mash plan than generally results in a turnover.
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Partly been solved by the departure of *smile*.Found it quite odd why *smile* was always left on his own at the kick ins ;D
 
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
mb64 said:
I watch opposition sides against Richmond kick in & before you know it its on their forwardline.When we kick in we witness a zig zag,mish mash plan than generally results in a turnover.
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Partly been solved by the departure of gaspar.Found it quite odd why gaspar was always left on his own at the kick ins ;D
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Think your a bit generous Skipper saying it has been partly solved.
 
This really bugs me we stuff around with it so much just kick long to Polak simple then Raines Newman etc run past to get the crumb or hand ball kick long to Hughes or Riewoldt same again runners run past & kick quickly to a leading Shulz goal!!! How hard is it?
 
The Port game highlighted this issue. Not sure who was on Motlop, but it appeared to be nobody with a 50 m + kick regularly going to him on the flank/wing. When we kick it in, it generally is short to the pocket and then back to Bowden just in front of the 10 metre square.

Probably just evidence of a team without confidence and a lack of willingness to undertake some defensive running.
 
Chiang Mai Tiger said:
What are we trying to achieve - Pick 1 National Draft 2007
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Umm it might be pick 2 if Carlton don't pick up their game and win at least 5 games :hihi

B1
 
I don't think that the problem is execution. It is the strategy itself. Very few of the opposition coast-to-coast goals are a result of loose men causing an overlap. If they were, we could blame it on a player who hasn't done his job. They are usually the result of defenders picking up their player in the corridor but conceding the kick if the player runs to the boundary. Wallace is employing some sort of zone defence against the kickins where he is trying to keep the ball out of the corridor. On our kick-ins, he is doing the opposite and trying to keep it in there.

The trouble is, there are many AFL players who can kick goals from the boundary line, esp if there is little pressure on them. The fact that most of these players play for teams other than Richmond makes it worse.

Each coast-to-coast goal is an 11 point turnaround. Each goal from our kick-in is worth 7 points, not 6. If we concede one of each in every quarter, that adds up to 12 free goals to the opposition. It is not hard to see why we lose by 100 plus when we play badly and by around 20-40 when we play reasonably well.
 
Nothing !

We have no idea what to do and is one of our many achilles heal.

What are we trying to achieve. No system. We take far too long. There is no designated kicker who can take the responsibility and bloody move it on quick instead of bloody dreaming and turning it over, placing tremendous pressure on our defence as it is kicked back over their heads.

Stop this zig zag , chip , chip, bloddy kick it out of the danger zone with some system and have a plan Terry cause it sure seems like there isnt ONE.
 
jb03 said:
The Port game highlighted this issue. Not sure who was on Motlop, but it appeared to be nobody with a 50 m + kick regularly going to him on the flank/wing.
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That's hte issue. We let them go to the flank by themselves. Why?

What is the point of stopping the 15 players who are in the corridor if you let the three on the flank by themselves have the ball?
 
TOT70 said:
That's hte issue. We let them go to the flank by themselves. Why?

What is the point of stopping the 15 players who are in the corridor if you let the three on the flank by themselves have the ball?
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So true. They did it non stop.
 
Wallace has a cunning plan to lull all other clubs into a sense of superiority by allowing them to run the ball so easily out of their own defensive half while our players push hard to ensure it rarely leaves our own defensive half thereby allowing the opposition plenty of time to score, sooner or later the boys will change this around which will confuse the opposition and then look out!

Im not 100% of the timetable but apparently we can all expect to bathe in the glory and have something to cheer about around 2015 to 2020 :'(
 
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