What would happen in this situation? | PUNT ROAD END | Richmond Tigers Forum
  • IMPORTANT // Please look after your loved ones, yourself and be kind to others. If you are feeling that the world is too hard to handle there is always help - I implore you not to hesitate in contacting one of these wonderful organisations Lifeline and Beyond Blue ... and I'm sure reaching out to our PRE community we will find a way to help. T.

What would happen in this situation?

Hah hah hah….yeah, that would mean the end of the game.

I’d also like to see an umpire pay a free in the dying seconds of a tied GF like similar to the free they paid to Lucas against Geelong last Friday. Better, I’d like to see Aidriana Anderson explain/support it afterwards.
 
There was a controversial one in the Swans Essendon game which Essendon won by a point. Everitt punched the ball through from the exact scenario outlined by Harry at three quarter time and the umpires allowed the point to stand.
 
jb03 said:
There was a controversial one in the Swans Essendon game which Essendon won by a point. Everitt punched the ball through from the exact scenario outlined by Harry at three quarter time and the umpires allowed the point to stand.

In that case Everitt was a defender.
 
jb03 said:
There was a controversial one in the Swans Essendon game which Essendon won by a point. Everitt punched the ball through from the exact scenario outlined by Harry at three quarter time and the umpires allowed the point to stand.
Had an Essendon player punched it through the score wouldn't have counted.
 
Redford said:
Hah hah hah….yeah, that would mean the end of the game.

The thing is with this ridiculous rule of timed shots is that it creates unnecessary controversy.
Imagine if say Matthew Lloyd took 45 seconds to line up what is obviously a very important kick and play on wasn't called only to see it sail through the middle for victory.
You'd be screaming blue murder.

I've barely seen them penalise for this stupid rule change anyway so the sooner they scrap it the better IMO.
 
Tigers of Old said:
Redford said:
Hah hah hah….yeah, that would mean the end of the game.

The thing is with this ridiculous rule of timed shots is that it creates unnecessary controversy.
Imagine if say Matthew Lloyd took 45 seconds to line up what is obviously a very important kick and play on wasn't called only to see it sail through the middle for victory.
You'd be screaming blue murder.

I've barely seen them penalise for this stupid rule change anyway so the sooner they scrap it the better IMO.

Didnt Richo get a "play on" from the umpire for taking too long to take his shot on Sunday??
 
In nearly every game you will see/hear the umpire signal/call 'play-on' but it's nearly always against a defender.

There was one night early in the season when it happened to a Richmond player and play-on was called when he was still going back for his kick! And there was none of this tossing up a blade of grass or retying bootlaces, etc.

I keep threatening to hunt out my old stop watch 'cos I'm sure that Lloyd gets longer than most other players.

What's this checking the wind, anyway, inside the Dump with the roof closed?
 
Richo was called to play on in the Kangas game, other players were given what seemed like a lifetime compared to that one that Richo had.

I also noticed that about 20 seconds after Kane Pettifer had marked, and was going for his kick and the Kangaroos player looked at the umpire and asked where the mark was. Luckily it didn't put Petts off his kick, but the crowd got restless because it seemed Pettifer had ages to take his kick. Bloody Kangaroos tactics.
 
Heart Balme came closest to the correct answer.

There is not enough information to answer the question. The siren to signal the end of a quarter or a game is a signal to the umpire to end the game. He then blows his whistle to end the game. If the ball was punched before the ump signalled the end of the game, it counts. If the ump had already ended the game, it doesn't.

Simple. Timekeeper signals to umpire using siren, umpire ends game and umpire decides what had occurred before he ended the game and what occurred later.
 
The kick is taken after the siren, TOT.

Draw as has been pointed out. I didn't realise that if the behind is rushed by a defender it counts. I reckon I've got 70 games of goal umpiring too. :hihi How often did I get it wrong? ;D
 
Dyer'ere said:
The kick is taken after the siren, TOT.

Draw as has been pointed out. I didn't realise that if the behind is rushed by a defender it counts. I reckon I've got 70 games of goal umpiring too. :hihi How often did I get it wrong? ;D

Don't think that's quiet right JD, if the player deliberately rushes the behind from an after the siren kick it won't count.
 
feisty tige said:
(c) the Goal or Behind is scored by a Player who was awarded a Free Kick under Law 12.6.
12.5.2 Football touched in Transit
A Behind shall still be recorded under Law 12.5.1 if the football is touched in transit by another Player, provided the field Umpire is satisfied that the scoring of the Behind was not assisted by a Player from the same Team.

Just as well I didn't check with you, jb, when I was making all those mistakes as a goal umpire. ;D
 
Dyer'ere said:
The kick is taken after the siren, TOT.

Draw as has been pointed out. I didn't realise that if the behind is rushed by a defender it counts. I reckon I've got 70 games of goal umpiring too. :hihi How often did I get it wrong? ;D

Harry's original post has the ball in flight when the siren sounds, indicating the kick is before the siren.

I'll stick with my original thoughts that it is up to the ump to decide whether it counts or not. I've been a goal ump where the siren has sounded with the ball in flight and the result has been different, depending on what the ump has done. The ump will signal the end of the game and he decides where the ball is when he did so. If it has been knocked through before he blows the whistle, he will count it.
 
I'm just not paying attention. :crazy

Fair enough TOT. But the time question is another Pandora's can of worms.
 
That's one of the things that makes our game better than all the other sports.

In Yank Footy they would run the film through a computer, debate the positioning and timings up in the control room and release the decision a couple of hours later.

In true Aussie style, we just leave all the decisions up to the blind maggot and his guide dog and the fans of the losing team can blissfully hurl abuse at him until he goes home.

Much more fun.