When will Bernie go !!

[shawry]

This is typical for this site. Bunch of flogs who always claim soul possession Of football knowledge. Even more so when real events have no correlation to what they stubbornly ram down others throats.

I only barge in cause you tools don't talk footy, you bully others with your self imposed superiority. anyone who dosnt share your over inflated opinion of yourself and the game is belittled.

You sir are a right tosser!




See you after We see what the reality is come finals. Not that results will release your crazed mind from its self deluded shackles!

Well said

 

[toby64]

We can talk much about Dimma but it is also the players that need to stand up in the finals. We all blame the coach but players need to make that stand. As with most games this year, Dimma is not kicking the goals, the players are and if they can't convert there is only so much a coach can do. If players fumble under finals pressure, is that Dimmas fault too. It a club responsibility, both Coach and players need to stand up when it counts!

Indeed.

The critics overlook the players in past finals losses and blame Hardwick for the fumbling, the panic under pressure and players going missing. The players are never to blame as far as they are concerned. Its all on Hardwick. And it will be again if we happen to lose finals this year, regardless of the circumstances. It will all be Dimma's fault. You can bank on it.

And they call the Dimma supporters delusional, Kool Aid drinking cheer squad geeks! :rofl

 

[Harry]

Nah. Dimma holds no power. It's all Flypacella according to those in the know, and I have no reason to doubt the validity of their unbiased claims. Smartest footy minds on PRE they are!

How's the train wreck of a list going tobes?

Many on here said all they needed was a better game plan and some freedom.

Voila.

 

[AngryAnt]

Leaving aside the upgrades and development of our list this year, absolutely no-one predicted our current game plan Harry. No-one.

 

[Baron Samedi]

This is typical for this site. Bunch of flogs who always claim soul possession Of football knowledge. Even more so when real events have no correlation to what they stubbornly ram down others throats.

I only barge in cause you tools don't talk footy, you bully others with your self imposed superiority. anyone who dosnt share your over inflated opinion of yourself and the game is belittled.

You sir are a right tosser!




See you after We see what the reality is come finals. Not that results will release your crazed mind from its self deluded shackles!

Ninjas aren't usually this sensitive are they?

 

[toby64]

How's the train wreck of a list going tobes?

Many on here said all they needed was a better game plan and some freedom.

Voila.

Different list to those "top 4" lists you and your learned friends spruiked on here in previous years Harry.

You reckon a settled backline (even though you want Astbury at CHF), our top 4 all in career best form, the addition of Nank, Caddy and Prestia and the young mozzies up front is better than what we have had available before?

You reckon its better than those previous lists that Hardwick handbraked? I do. And yet we won 15 games in '13 and '15 with those lists. We may not even get there this year. The gameplan worked back then, despite the rubbish claims of many around here.

You reckon the current gameplan would have worked with the players we had in the past? Who were the mozzies then?

I wasn't sure earlier this year whether it would work and still questioned our depth, but as time has gone on and the recruits, kids and those free from injury have all stood up and shown their capabilities, ive become a convert.

In fact, finally I reckon we may just have a top 4 list, though there is still a question mark on how they will go under the magnified pressure a final brings.

Thankfully the focus on footy group didn't get in and sack Dimma hey?

 

[Baron Samedi]

Leaving aside the upgrades and development of our list this year, absolutely no-one predicted our current game plan Harry. No-one.

No one said we need to trust our back six more?

Provide more forward shape even when we are defending, so on turnover we can move the ball quickly to targets leading up to the ball?

You try harder than most, so why don't you tottle off to find the numerous posts by H and Lamby pointing this out over many years.

It would be more instructive than your usual tripe, I promise!

 

[Baron Samedi]

Different list to those "top 4" lists you and your learned friends spruiked on here in previous years Harry.

You reckon a settled backline (even though you want Astbury at CHF), our top 4 all in career best form, the addition of Nank, Caddy and Prestia and the young mozzies up front is better than what we have had available before?

You reckon its better than those previous lists that Hardwick handbraked? I do. And yet we won 15 games in '13 and '15 with those lists. We may not even get there this year. The gameplan worked back then, despite the rubbish claims of many around here.

You reckon the current gameplan would have worked with the players we had in the past? Who were the mozzies then?

I wasn't sure earlier this year whether it would work and still questioned our depth, but as time has gone on and the recruits, kids and those free from injury have all stood up and shown their capabilities, ive become a convert.

In fact, finally I reckon we may just have a top 4 list.

Thankfully the focus on footy group didn't get in and sack Dimma hey?

Crap. You'd think the current game plan is the only attacking option going around.

No, Tobes, in 2013 we had a deep midfield with genuine grunt, a AA forward in Coleman form, an established Rance at full back.

All we needed was a coach who actually maximised our talent instead of obsessively developing a Borg mindset.

Four years wasted. Now that Dimma has finally seen the benefit of balancing attack and defense, you bring out the 'better list' theory.

Turn it up :hihi

 

[123cups]

I think you're prepared to wait a loooing time for flag 11.

Too forgiving. Symptomatic of many delusional supporters on here.

Sure, it's been a nice ride up to this point. I love being top four, history says it's the best way to launch a flag tilt.

But most level-headed folks here are waiting to see what happens where it counts. They are justified doing so given the club's recent history.

But I enjoy the cheer squad geeks barging in here with vitriol after a win, that's an entertaining sideshow to the glow of victory.

I respect everyone as a person, but I truly don't respect your opinion mate.

You've twisted and defended yourself mindlessly everytime I see you post. There's no deep thought to it - you just find any means necessary to allow yourself to think you're right, regardless of the facts of the bigger picture.

Gutless, pathetic, uninsightful, and even if we don't win a flag this year or next, we're in with a strong chance and having an attitude like yours does nothing to skew the odds in our favour.

Posters like you form the anus of online opinions, not the "cheer squad geeks" you so often try to convince yourself you're superior to.

 

[AngryAnt]

No one said we need to trust our back six more?

Provide more forward shape even when we are defending, so on turnover we can move the ball quickly to targets leading up to the ball?

You try harder than most, so why don't you tottle off to find the numerous posts by H and Lamby pointing this out over many years.

It would be more instructive than your usual tripe, I promise!

It's your contention that darksiders have been calling for this exact game plan for years, so why don't you toddle off and find all the posts that describe these wonderful insights.

And broad generalities won't cut it Carter. Go on, off you go. We'll wait.

 

[123cups]

Four years wasted. Now that Dimma has finally seen the benefit of balancing attack and defense, you bring out the 'better list' theory.

Turn it up :hihi

Earlier this year you said we had a poor list. Now you're back to "we had a top 4 list all long" :hihi

Anyway the wind blows...

 

[toby64]

Crap. You'd think the current game plan is the only attacking option going around.

No, Tobes, in 2013 we had a deep midfield with genuine grunt, a AA forward in Coleman form, an established Rance at full back.

All we needed was a coach who actually maximised our talent instead of obsessively developing a Borg mindset.

Four years wasted. Now that Dimma has finally seen the benefit of balancing attack and defense, you bring out the 'better list' theory.

Turn it up :hihi

*smile* Carts.

We won 15 games in '13 and '15 with mediocre lists. And apparently a *smile* gameplan. Many in the football world were lauding Hardwick for getting us that far. Many said we are too reliant on the top 5 players. Many who have actually played the game. Many who actually know what they are talking about. Unlike many in this forum.

Anyway, you aren't going to admit this list is better because you reckon it needs a rebuild.

 

[Baron Samedi]

*smile* Carts.

We won 15 games in '13 and '15 with mediocre lists. And apparently a sh!t gameplan. Many in the football world were lauding Hardwick for getting us that far. Many said we are too reliant on the top 5 players. Many who have actually played the game. Many who actually know what they are talking about. Unlike many in this forum.

Anyway, you aren't going to admit this list is better because you reckon it needs a rebuild.

In 2013 our superstars were on the rise. Now they're in their prime, we need to see the next gen coming through.

I cant see the same quality, hence the danger of rebuild sooner than we think.

I stand by my call. People need to look beyond the last game we played. Armchair analysis at its worst.

 

[Harry]

Different list to those "top 4" lists you and your learned friends spruiked on here in previous years Harry.

You reckon a settled backline (even though you want Astbury at CHF), our top 4 all in career best form, the addition of Nank, Caddy and Prestia and the young mozzies up front is better than what we have had available before?

You reckon its better than those previous lists that Hardwick handbraked? I do. And yet we won 15 games in '13 and '15 with those lists. We may not even get there this year. The gameplan worked back then, despite the rubbish claims of many around here.

You reckon the current gameplan would have worked with the players we had in the past? Who were the mozzies then?

I wasn't sure earlier this year whether it would work and still questioned our depth, but as time has gone on and the recruits, kids and those free from injury have all stood up and shown their capabilities, ive become a convert.

In fact, finally I reckon we may just have a top 4 list, though there is still a question mark on how they will go under the magnified pressure a final brings.

Thankfully the focus on footy group didn't get in and sack Dimma hey?

Chicken and egg argument as usual.

Balmey brings in new assistants banishes hardwick from preseason and we change to a more attacking game plan with players already at bernies disposal. Bernie never rated speed and attack. It was forced on him while he was on study leave. He favoured drones like hunt chaplin and bachelor don't forget. He never gave butler a look in. George plays well in one game then gets dropped. Too flighty. Thought matty white was too fast and not droney enough. Says it's not how we want to play when we out run and out gun the saints. Drops the kids when we try to play attacking football early last year against the crows.

Not bad to sit third considering the list is a total disaster eh?

Amazing what a good game plan can bring. Amazing.

 

[hutstar]

In 2013 our superstars were on the rise. Now they're in their prime, we need to see the next gen coming through.

I cant see the same quality, hence the danger of rebuild sooner than we think.

I stand by my call. People need to look beyond the last game we played. Armchair analysis at its worst.

Can we look at the ladder?

 

[Baron Samedi]

Earlier this year you said we had a poor list. Now you're back to "we had a top 4 list all long" :hihi

Anyway the wind blows...

Newsflash:

Rebuild - future, as our superstars decline

Top four list - 2013-2017, probably next couple as well.

Not hard right?

 

[Baron Samedi]

Can we look at the ladder?

We're in the window, the sweet spot, no doubt.

 

[toby64]

Chicken and egg argument as usual.

Balmey brings in new assistants banishes hardwick from preseason and we change to a more attacking game plan with players already at bernies disposal. Bernie never rated speed and attack. It was forced on him while he was on study leave. He favoured drones like hunt chaplin and bachelor don't forget. He never gave butler a look in. George plays well in one game then gets dropped. Too flighty. Thought matty white was too fast and not droney enough. Says it's not how we want to play when we out run and out gun the saints. Drops the kids when we try to play attacking football early last year against the crows.

Not bad to sit third considering the list is a total disaster eh?

Amazing what a good game plan can bring. Amazing.

Again a post full of supposition at best, lies at worst.

 

[Harry]

Some people on here just don't rate game plans.

Ask yourself how many goals have we kicked this year running into an open goal. Heaps. Now think about how many we kicked before this year. You'll struggle to remember any.

Amazing what a good game plan can bring. Bernie can enjoy the ride.

 

[Baron Samedi]

Bernie can indeed enjoy the ride, as long as he isn't making moves in a cut-throat semi-final I'm happy.

Thankfully he has a few good puppeteers.