Who is the worst RFC Coach since 1982?

[pahoffm]

Is this the Graeme Bond from 3AW?

I believe that's the same one who played for the Tigers during the late 60s - early 70s.

Had a meeting with him in '85 when he was RFC Football manager.
Asked him if he ever spoke to ex-Tiger Robert Lamb about juniors in the amateurs.
Bond said he spoke to Lamb every week.
Robert Lamb was my cricket club coach at the time.
Saw Robert the following day.
Asked him if Bondy spoke to him regularly.
Robert said that Bond hadn't spoken to him in years.

Still remember it. Enough said!

Sorry, just remembered from the same meeting.
It was the Friday before we played Carlton on that weekend.
It was Warren McKenzie's first game, or so.
I asked him about the balance of the team.
Asked if he knew about McKenzie.
He replied, "He's another Carlton mosquito."

I looked at him straight in the eye, shook my head and realised I was talking to an incompetent idiot.
I thanked him for his time and left.

 

[AngryAnt]

Bourke coached us in 82 as well - we got to the Grand Final.

 

[GoodOne]

Mayebe a Jonhhy come latley wouldnd understand.But if you havent dollars or surport it arnt going to happen.

When have we had the dollars or support? Up until last year we had one guy doing about 4 jobs. The best coaches make the most of what they have, have seen many examples of coaches turning insipid teams into winning ones. That's the sign of a good coach.

 

[Forever Hoping]

The 2001 Grand Final could easily have been Richmond v Hawthorn. Both Prelims could have gone either way. If our game had been played at the MCG rather than the Gabba then we would have waltzed in. As it turned out we did not disgrace ourselves.

We lost that match by more than 11 goals and Brisbane went on to win teh flag. Very hard to see that we were close that year.

 

[Rosy]

I had a go at you in public not in private, after my coments you asked me to explain my problem by PM which i did, no response back!
Very few people have rated Wallace the worst, so i was targeting you as one of the people on this site that carries some weight. I thought your attack on Wallace was uncalled for and ill informed. What is an emotionally stong list? I have no grudge just frustrated at the lack of ability to understand RFC

What a load of piffle but I'll contact you by PM in regard to your demands about other posters but apart from that stick to facts please.

• My opinions don't carry any more weight on here than anybody elses
• At least 17 voted for Terry, and I'm not one of them..that doesn't equate to "very few" in the context of the poll
• At least 7 posted comments about Terry as their choice yet you singled me out
• I didn't "attack" Terry
• I gave an opinion which you twisted to suit your own agenda, even emballishing it with the Campbo reference.
• Who are you to judge anybody else's opinion as ill-informed?
• How is my opinion misunderstanding of the RFC?

To answer your question by emotionally strong I mean a list of players who don't go to water when things don't go their way. A team that can cope with hype and pressure. A team where our senior players don't regularly let us down as Terry states ours do.

Enough of your analysis of my opinions. Can you tell us who you voted for or do you prefer to take potshots than to actually contribute in the discussion yourself?

 

[ozmadman]

Listening to Rodney Eade on monday night, the question was put to him as to the importance of tactics versus motivation (ie having your team turn up to play)!

He rated it as motivation about 70 and tactics 30!

Having said that, though one poster has said Northey was tactically strong, the reality is that he was known as a motivator that wasn't tactically strong at all. Walls was considered tactically strong and Richmond managed to destruct the only real winnig formula we've had for the best part of 30 years as we believed that Northey wasn't tactically strong enough to win during September!

I also remember Leigh Matthews comments in the media at the time Richmond traded coaches with Brisbane. He mentioned the belief that Northey was a great motivator but tactically weak, and went on to say if there is one thing he'd like his own team to be known for it's hardness at the ball, and during Northey's time at Richmond, we were regarded as the hardest team in the competition.

A bit of a slap to Walls, and a definite pat on the back to Northey from Matthews (for what it's worth - in my eyes a lot)!

Top post!
Northey was our BEST coach over the last 30 years. Whatever happened to cause the Northey / Walls swap with Brisbane was just crazy! Walls got Brisbane to the finals, Northey got us to a prelim. Then we get Walls. What a complete stuff up!!!
We were THE hardest team in the comp in '95. Northey had us PLAYING FOR THE JUMPER. At the time it was 15 years since we'd won a flag and the feeling was that finally we were heading there again. What might have been if we'd kept Northey.

Geish and Frawley, i don't know how either could be called "tactically strong"! Particularly Frawley whose idea was to flood like hell and manicle the most athletic and aerobic tall in the competition to the goal square! One wonders what sort of career stats Richo would have had, had he not had Frawley as coach in his absolute prime years!

Considering the marking power we had up forward, one wonders why any coach would play such a negative game plan!

He had a totally unique weapon and told him to add 10kg and stand in the square ala Alistair Lynch. Lynch couldn't even kick the ton with the fab 4 (really a fab 5) giving it to him lace out, and that's with 60 plus forward 50 entries a game!! We couldnt even get the pill past the centre line 30 times a game!

Couldn't agree more! Frawley stuffed up Richo. Last year we FINALLY put him on the wing where he belongs. For years everyone has gone on about how amazingly athletic this tall strong marking player is. So if he's so athletic - USE IT! Why make him bulk up and take away such a great weapon?

It's hard to pick a worst, but Frawley and Walls are both right up there.
It's easy to pick a best - Northey by miles!

 

[TigerForce]

I believe that's the same one who played for the Tigers during the late 60s - early 70s.

Had a meeting with him in '85 when he was RFC Football manager.
Asked him if he ever spoke to ex-Tiger Robert Lamb about juniors in the amateurs.
Bond said he spoke to Lamb every week.
Robert Lamb was my cricket club coach at the time.
Saw Robert the following day.
Asked him if Bondy spoke to him regularly.
Robert said that Bond hadn't spoken to him in years.

Still remember it. Enough said!

Proves how many egotistic individualists we had at this club since 1977 . They were part of the ruin ever since Hafey left.

 

[LandyJessKeane]

Sorry mate but I disagree.

The 2001 Grand Final could easily have been Richmond v Hawthorn. Both Prelims could have gone either way. If our game had been played at the MCG rather than the Gabba then we would have waltzed in. As it turned out we did not disgrace ourselves.

Benny Holland had his best season ever in 2001 and it helped Spud no end. Then that was it.

Would have waltzed in against Brisbane? :

That one step from a Grand Final was crap. We turned up for one final in which could have gone either way and Carlton finnished bottom the next year. We were lucky to get top 4. Essendon had nothing to play for in that last round and games against Bulldogs and Kangaroos we almost threw away. We were a middle of the road side.

Mate were you of the thinking 'all we need is Paul Hudson' and we will fill that step.

Frawley by a mile. I dont understand how anyone can not rate Frawley as the biggest disaster the club has seen

 

[IanG]

Frawley by a mile. I dont understand how anyone can not rate Frawley as the biggest disaster the club has seen

I could not agree with you more.

 

[Fighting Fury]

Hear hear.
Frawley was shocking.

Remember him running on the ground at quarter time against north (after we had had a good first Q against them), telling their Archers/Kings/Abrahams and Stevens players that they were too old? Result...they turn around and smash us. Embarrass us actually.

 

[seven]

Walls had the best list of players over the time covered and completely stuffed it. Had a young Richo and a strong supporting cast. Just woeful.

In Walls defence he had no chance with the tigers. Brendan Gale done an interview just after he retired and said that most players were against Walls and any other coach to come in as they wanted Northey and Northey only.
Some players (you can probable guess who they were) never payed Walls any respect and at times wouldn't follow his instructions. The senior players threw a hissy fit when the club refused to extend his northey's contract.

Just another example of the players running the club.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Wallet is firming

 

[Ruthless Tigers ?]

Frawley could teach Wallace a few things!

 

[frickenel]

There were some very interesting comments made by Nathan Bower and Dale Weightman pre game in the Miller Room.

The comment was made that Geish told players exactly what they wanted to hear and nothing else. Bower then said

Quote: "I used to call The Geish The Keish because he's soft and fluffy and too much of him made you feel sick"!

Glowing praise! No wonder our umpires are as soft and sensitive as they are these days and their decision making reflects that!

 

[philipwalsh]

Would have waltzed in against Brisbane? :

That one step from a Grand Final was crap. We turned up for one final in which could have gone either way and Carlton finnished bottom the next year. We were lucky to get top 4. Essendon had nothing to play for in that last round and games against Bulldogs and Kangaroos we almost threw away. We were a middle of the road side.

Mate were you of the thinking 'all we need is Paul Hudson' and we will fill that step.

Frawley by a mile. I dont understand how anyone can not rate Frawley as the biggest disaster the club has seen

Absolutely, topping up with Husdon was truly unbelievable. We were lucky that year.

 

[B1 and B2]

l voted on Roberta Walls. l think he had the worst 100 point loss record.

B2

 

[Tiger74]

There were some very interesting comments made by Nathan Bower and Dale Weightman pre game in the Miller Room.

The comment was made that Geish told players exactly what they wanted to hear and nothing else. Bower then said

Quote: "I used to call The Geish The Keish because he's soft and fluffy and too much of him made you feel sick"!

Glowing praise! No wonder our umpires are as soft and sensitive as they are these days and their decision making reflects that!

Heard something similar on the radio the other day. Apparently one thing frustrating the Pies (and some other clubs) is that they meet with Geisch and think they have resolved on certain issues, only to find nothing changes. Apparently some clubs are now reluctant to meet him, because they think they are just wasting their time.

 

[Goodwin 24]

Wallace

 

[Ridley]

Wallace is closing rapidly on Frawley. It's a very close call right now. It is staggering how poor Wallace's performance has been given his 5 years carte blanche contract. His failure is total and absolute.