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Who plays CHB?

skybeau said:
Tigers of Old said:
Good God it's going to be an ugly game.
Can visualize it already. :(

Good thing its being televised, eh? :-\

;)
Ugly game or not, I'm heading up there to see us take the 4 points. ;D :gotigers
 
Tigers of Old said:
Leysy Days said:
Tigers of Old said:
Leysy Days said:
jb03 said:
I'll tell ya its Ryan O'Keefe, I'd like to see Raines get the job. (it will get him up the ground & into the play more where we can use his drive.


I think O'Keefe will be too strong for Raines in the air. O'Keefe 190cm(from Swans website), Rainesy 182cm.
O'Keefe gave Newmo a footy lesson last time the teams met. Too tall. Rainsey is even shorter than Chris. :-\

Polo would be my pick to tag O'Keefe.

O'Keefe is listed at 187cm or 188cm on various other listings.........

Besides he beats players with long searching leads & is the link to the full forward line moreso than contested marks in forward 50.  He beat Newman because he was too quick on the lead. (when Newman gets neat this is also normally the reason.)

Besides Polo is required for Goodes who MUST have a man.  If given a hard tag he can throw the towel in. When allowed to fo his own thing he can tear games apart.

I guess we'll have to disagree Leysy.

IMO as great as Dean's been this year I think Goodes is too big and strong for Polo.
This isn't Buddy Franklin coming back from injury we are talking about.
Goodes is virtually a ruckman, he's deceptively big.
As much as some here wouldn't advocate it. If he's fit I'd bring Rayzor back to play on Goodes.

This is what I'd do, all this depends on Joel of course.


R Hall - Goodes

Gaspar - B.Hall

Raines - Fosdike

Polo - O'Keefe

White - Schneider

Kellaway - O'Loughlin

P Bowden - Loose in defence

It'll be interesting to see what defensive matchups TW goes with. 8)

Yeah we're on different wavelengths here TOOheys.

IMO Goodes aint no KPP, he's an outside athletic wingman. You need a fit midfielder to play on him.
Hall is no chance IMO, having not played for what 3 weeks or so there is no way he'll have the fitness base to run with Goodes.
I still reckon Polo will get the gig with Moore the other outside chance.

O'Loughlin has struggled all year & will play close to goal.

On your matchups above Leysy'll go

Polo - Goodes

Gaspar - B.Hall

Fosdike will play on ball, not much time up forward. wont need a defensice matchup (only kicked 4 goals all year)

Raines - O'Keefe

White - Schneider

Moore - O'Loughlin

Kellaway loose man

Bowden to pick up whoever floats forward as 5th/ 6th defender
 
Leysy Days said:
Tigers of Old said:
Leysy Days said:
Tigers of Old said:
Leysy Days said:
jb03 said:
Yeah we're on different wavelengths here TOOheys.

IMO Goodes aint no KPP, he's an outside athletic wingman. You need a fit midfielder to play on him.
Hall is no chance IMO, having not played for what 3 weeks or so there is no way he'll have the fitness base to run with Goodes.
I still reckon Polo will get the gig with Moore the other outside chance.

Fair poin re R Hall. He will be underdone.

Still concerned about Polo, perhaps Moore???
There's little doubt Goodes will be a tough matchup for us.
 
hopper said:
The Richo idea is farcical imho. His field kicking and decision making in defence are appalling.

disagree. richo's field kicking is usually excellent

Tigers of Old said:
I was of the impression Hall is a way off yet?

he's listed in the hun as "test"
 
I'd even consider interchanging Polo and Moore on Goodes. His athleticism could worry one opposition player all game. By interchanging you might run him out of steam.

I like the idea of Richo and Brown on the forward line. At some stage they have to begin blending together like last year.

If Richo is FF the CHF has to either play wide or well towards the centre.

Last week Richo rushed out dragging his minder with him and upset what should have been a Tuck mark and shot for goal. Richo does not understand about giving another player a clear go at the ball.

It's not his fault. For too long he has had to battle away mostly on his own, outnumbered and being held onto. I love the big lug but the forward setup has to alter with Richo there.

Having said all that I reckon Phantom's masterplan Mk 2 has merit or at least surprise. Do you play chess, Masked Man? ;D
 
Ian4 said:
hopper said:
The Richo idea is farcical imho.  His field kicking and decision making in defence are appalling. 

disagree. richo's field kicking is usually excellent

Seriously? Richo's kicking and handballs are usually appalling (good last week though). I remember the Adelaide match, we held the ball for minutes until it was passed to Richo. Of course his kick turned it over. Someone so inconsistent kicking for goal is generally going to have problems with consistency in kicking in general as well. Love the old fella but Richo at half-back is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
Richo down back would be a disaster. Honestly the thought of it makes me shudder - the swans would be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought.
 
bairdy380 said:
Richo on Goodes just wont work....Goodes will prob drag him to the swans fwd line, and richo in defence....it just doesnt work....you can physically see him thinking, what to do, where to postion etc...

Goodes has been a marking target just forward of the centre and coming out of defense all season for Sydney, for the most part they keep him out of the forward 50 unless he's been left to his own devices or totally outrun his opponent (averaging less than a goal per game and his highest has been 2). If they're determined to play him forward then just drop the tag, stick Moore on him and let Richo hurt them on another opponent until Goodes leaves the forward line again - they don't have a lot of options on Richo. Goodes has been doing his damage through the middle of the ground setting up plays...I have no problem with Richo defending in that area and also being a marking target who will sorely trouble Goodes when we rebound long and quick.

Ideally we'd play Hall on Goodes but he's not going to be able to keep up first week back and neither would Moore for anywhere near a full game.
 
A lot of defensive match ups. Where are our onballers that the opposition must shut down. We really don't have any.
 
jb03 said:
A lot of defensive match ups. Where are our onballers that the opposition must shut down. We really don't have any.

Only Tuck jb, and Kirk really shut him down first half last time round while picking up plenty himself...will quite possibly do so again.

You're right, most of our midfield youngsters don't worry the opposition...except Foley in small bursts...and it's probably worth mentioning that he had 18 disposals and 8 clearances last time round, yet it didn't exactly keep us in the hunt.
 
jb03 said:
A lot of defensive match ups. Where are our onballers that the opposition must shut down. We really don't have any.
On top of which we are sans Cogs and Newman who we had at the last outing.
Hence why I'm worried about this game.
 
Shers said:
This may not be answering the question of who plays CHB, but more answering who plays B.Hall.
Gaspar to play on Hall, purely as defensive as possible, as opposed to Bowden, who's offensive qualities are great, but has struggled a bit in recent times defensively.
For all Gaspar's faults, which are basically of the offensive variety, I still think he is great defensively.
ya know shers as much as i hate gaspar i concede hes pretty good negater. if hall plays ff *smile* should take him if he starts at chf moore.personally i would like knobel to be fit which would enable simmonds to play in the hole down back much like brendan gale used to.
 
It just dawned on me.

No Bowden, No newman, No Thursfield even No Harts.

Our skill and running from the back half is super thin. Could be time to give Lids a HBF.
 
GoodOne said:
Ian4 said:
hopper said:
The Richo idea is farcical imho.  His field kicking and decision making in defence are appalling. 

disagree. richo's field kicking is usually excellent

Seriously?  Richo's kicking and handballs are usually appalling (good last week though).  I remember the Adelaide match, we held the ball for minutes until it was passed to Richo.  Of course his kick turned it over.    Someone so inconsistent kicking for goal is generally going to have problems with consistency in kicking in general as well.  Love the old fella but Richo at half-back is a disaster waiting to happen.

not only am i serious, it's a fact!!
 
Tubytiger said:
Richo down back would be a disaster. Honestly the thought of it makes me shudder - the swans would be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought.
Spot on,we have seen our costly some of Richo's ventures down to the backline can be.Keep him in the forwardline.