KL - I respect your opinion but I completely do not agree with what you are saying at all.
Koalalill said:
What I am saying is that when Malthouse went to Collingwood he was given free reign to do what he wanted. He wanted get rid of 20 odd players he was allowed to that and the members of that football club said "that's OK it is Malthouse". He is a premeirship coach.
The coach is responsible to assess the list and needs to replace players that are incapable with players that are capable. Call that rebuilding, tinkering or whatever you like. Frawely has persisted with the Kings, Rogers, Houlihans, Biddiscombes etc and has further recruited Fleming and Nicholls because he beleived that they are capable. No other reason.
Koalalill said:
If Danny Frawley walked in at Richmond and announced to the world "the list is crap and I am getting rid of 10 players" members of our Club would have said "you can't be serious - we have Campbell, Knights, Richardson, Ottens, *smile*, Daffy etc our list aint that bad". I do not believe Danny has every been in that position Harry. The administrations over the years at Tigerland have put players we have on pedestals that they do not deserve and paid them ridiculous amounts of money (eg Bourke, Daffy). They have overrated the list. I believe no Adminstration at the Club has had the guts to say it is OK if we try to re-build. It is always we need to make the finals - we need to get close we got give the members something.
As I said above its the coaches responsibility to build the list and discard the incapable. The administration has no say on the playing list and a good strong coach would not be influenced by them. You mention Daffy and Bourke - well it was Frawely who backed out of possible trades involving these two which resulted in these ridiculous contracts.
Koalalill said:
We have had little success in the same period of time. So what have we done? We tried to fluke a flag in 2002 by thinking our list of players was better than what they were. Who's fault was that?
Danny Frawely.
Koalalill said:
I agree the Footy Department has made some shocking decisions in some of the players we have picked up. Houlihan, Hudson absoulete shockers. But nestled in their are the likes of Coughlan, Rodan, Krakouer, Newman and now Schulz and McGrath.
If Frawely is persisted with it won't be long untill these players lose all confidence and become the next Joel Bowdens.
Koalalill said:
How can you draft quality kids when there is only one person (Beck) going and watching them every week . To me that's embarrasing.
It was/is Beck's responsibility to build a team of talent scouts and send them to observe talent. If he was any good at his job he should have demanded this from the club and he would have received this.
At the end of the day we can make up as many excuses as we like for Frawely, Beck and co. but the simple fact is that they have failed and are simply not up to it.