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Who will we take with our first draft Pick
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Look, Deledio is a very good player who will do well but don't make him out to be the saviour.
After all, for all his great feats, Murray Bushrangers still lost more games than they won and they didn't make the TAC finals.
Granted he looked good in the Aust chmps but he had plenty of very good players around him.
Again, he's very good but don't make him out to be what he's not.
After all, for all his great feats, Murray Bushrangers still lost more games than they won and they didn't make the TAC finals.
Granted he looked good in the Aust chmps but he had plenty of very good players around him.
Again, he's very good but don't make him out to be what he's not.
Redford and Evo, we haven't heard your thoughts on Deledio, and whether he is a better option than Griffen at 1 at this stage.
Blazer makes him out to be the outstanding player to be chosen at 1 whereas Phanto has his doubts. I've also heard others doubting Deledio mainly due to his kicking.
One thing I would like to know is who is quicker and stronger through the hips and thighs - ie who is more of a tackle breaker. IMO, not having seen either of them, I would be more inclined to go for the quicker one and the one who has the ability to break tackles with strength in the hips and thighs.
Blazer makes him out to be the outstanding player to be chosen at 1 whereas Phanto has his doubts. I've also heard others doubting Deledio mainly due to his kicking.
One thing I would like to know is who is quicker and stronger through the hips and thighs - ie who is more of a tackle breaker. IMO, not having seen either of them, I would be more inclined to go for the quicker one and the one who has the ability to break tackles with strength in the hips and thighs.
Phanto,
I really don't have a vested interest my friend.
But can you please illustrate where I have made him out to be what he is not? Is stated his strengths and his weakness.
Your remark about his team losing more games than they won is totally irrelevant. Not that I am stating they are in the same class but...Bobby Skilton, Tony Lockett, Robert Flower all played in mediocre sides for most of their careers. That wasn't their fault.
Furtermore I don't think he is our saviour I never said he was.
And finally how would you know how he or anyone =else performed at the championships you have stated on many occasions that you didn't even see the games?
cheers
Blaisee
I really don't have a vested interest my friend.
But can you please illustrate where I have made him out to be what he is not? Is stated his strengths and his weakness.
Your remark about his team losing more games than they won is totally irrelevant. Not that I am stating they are in the same class but...Bobby Skilton, Tony Lockett, Robert Flower all played in mediocre sides for most of their careers. That wasn't their fault.
Furtermore I don't think he is our saviour I never said he was.
And finally how would you know how he or anyone =else performed at the championships you have stated on many occasions that you didn't even see the games?
cheers
Blaisee
Where did I say you had a vested interest?
It has been inferred by several posters that Deledio can be placed into the centre of the ground as an inside midfielder who can be a source of hardballgets. This inference is making him out to be what he is not.
Sure, I only base my opinion on what I've seen of him playing in a mediocre side during the TAC season.
A side that on paper should have done a whole lot better.
Maybe they should sack their coach.
As I said, Deledio may be a well worthwhile no.1 pick. But an inside midfielder, No.
It has been inferred by several posters that Deledio can be placed into the centre of the ground as an inside midfielder who can be a source of hardballgets. This inference is making him out to be what he is not.
Sure, I only base my opinion on what I've seen of him playing in a mediocre side during the TAC season.
A side that on paper should have done a whole lot better.
Maybe they should sack their coach.
As I said, Deledio may be a well worthwhile no.1 pick. But an inside midfielder, No.
Phantomime,
I was wondering how difficult it is to compare two players like Deledio and Tambling. They play in different comps but seem to possess some of the same qualities and play in similar positions. I know Tambling apparently needs to put on some beef. Do we sometimes overrate the TAC cup or is it on par with interstate domestic comps. I guess there is just some romance about a raw, hugely talented player like Tambling coming into our system, who hasn't perhaps had the grooming a Deledio would have. Perhaps Tambling and Deledio are at similar levels, but Tambling has a greater potential (scary word i know) to improve? No?
I was wondering how difficult it is to compare two players like Deledio and Tambling. They play in different comps but seem to possess some of the same qualities and play in similar positions. I know Tambling apparently needs to put on some beef. Do we sometimes overrate the TAC cup or is it on par with interstate domestic comps. I guess there is just some romance about a raw, hugely talented player like Tambling coming into our system, who hasn't perhaps had the grooming a Deledio would have. Perhaps Tambling and Deledio are at similar levels, but Tambling has a greater potential (scary word i know) to improve? No?
Harry said:
I have actually posted stuff on my opinion on Deledio several times now Harrison Ford. You should find them if you search through all my garbage the last few months. But to cut a long story short, I’m pretty much in agreement with what the Trail Blais-er said.
I’ve been watching Deledio for a couple of years now. He has a lot of flexibility – can play a number of positions. He’s very quick. Has good hands above his head. I don’t regard him as “outside”. Griffen yes, but not Deledio. He can kick both sides of his body but struggles sometimes on his left. This, in essence is the question mark over Deledio: some people think he doesn’t hit targets consistently enough. As Blaiso correctly points out, he’s probably a 7/10 in that regard whereas Griffen might be 9/10. But the two are completely different players. One has strengths that the other does not.
In terms of breaking tackles Harry Hippo, I’d count them even in that regard at the moment because Deledio has more pace (as Blazer Jacket points out) but Griffen is a bit more of a solid build through the trunk and thighs at present. But Deledio will fill out – he has a good physique – and may ultimately be better in the long run i.e. 2 or 3 years time in this specific regard.
There’s a lot going for Deledio. I like him.
And for what its worth I don’t think Blais Mayonnaise is suggesting that Deledio is or wdefinitely will be a superstar nor that he should be the one that we pick with our first selection. I interpreted his post as just being an appraisal of his strengths and weaknesses – just like we’ve done with many other players – and a pretty accurate one at that, I might add.
As Phantom suggests, the Draft Camp will probably settle in most people’s minds (certainly mine) who they’d prefer as number their number one pick.
hopper said:
I don't know where your coming from hopper, Tambling and Deledio are comletely different types of players.
Tambling,180,68, is a relatively short sized ground level Daniel Wells or Aaron Davey type player who relies primarily on his pace at and with the ball.
Deledio,189,78, is a taller free running waist level or above player. Yes he has some pace but not nearly the explosive pace of Tambling.
Regarding the level of the competitions, TAC is in my mind the best in terms of hard physical football. The NT competitions are far superior in terms of speed and endurance. If you get a chance, ask Joel Bowden what it was like playing in the NT during his formative years. He often talks how he'd have to run all match, drink heaps and not be able to p!ss at the end.
As for the Aust champs. Before they happened everyone was telling me how SA and WA were going to wipe the floor with the Vic teams. Just look back on those posts from June.
What happened?
Vic Metro won!
And some people are making full assessments on players based on 3 games played in the space of a fortnight played in the middle of the season.
Look fellas, if you're going to make judgements please wait until all the information is in.
I'm a big fan of pace. All things being equal, go for the quicker guy. If Deledio is anything like Judd pace-wise then sign him up.
I'm yet to hear Evo's latest thoughts on Deledio, as he was a huge fan during the U18's champs.
Are you out there Evoooooooo !!
Helloooooooooooo !!
I'm yet to hear Evo's latest thoughts on Deledio, as he was a huge fan during the U18's champs.
Are you out there Evoooooooo !!
Helloooooooooooo !!
blaisee said:
I have seen him play in pieces. I never saw him in the Aust champs in full but that doesn't mean I haven't seen small clips of him playing in these and other junior football. I've seen enough of him to be able to identify what type of player he is.
Seen enough of him to make a full assessment, no way!
If you want to keep the b@stards honest, you should be spending your time scrutinising the activities of the RFC, not me.
In the interests of presenting a balanced view I don't believe he will be as good as Judd. He hasn't actually torn apart the U18 league like Judd did, however, he does have somethig Judd does not, and that my friends is a tremendous overhead mark
Phantom.. I know it sounds like a simple question, but in your observations. Is there anybody in the draft who could possibly be the next Tredrea, Brown or Riewoldt? Because that's the player IMO we most deperately need. A potential CHF.Phantom said: