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Why do we have these lapses??

graystar1

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Apr 28, 2004
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For the life of me or my son, we cannot understand why the Tigers have such frequent lapses in their games. Not just this season but over a period of time. Take last night as an example. 3/4 time and we are only 4 points down and with a chance to win the game. Almost to plan, we have this bad lapse and bang, 4 or 5 goals by the Saints....game over.

How many times this year have we been a position to win or at least be competitive, and then compounded. Don't know about anyone else, but I've lost count.

As professor Julius Sumner Miller used to say.........."why is it so?'
 
Easy, 'coz we aint good enough.
We've got a couple of talented seniors and a tribe of young gunna be kids.
Enough to keep us competitive most games not enough to crunch sides when it gets tight.
 
We pretty much had our best team on the park and I think it showed in the quality of some of our play and the competitiveness of the game. As usual when the opposition lifts we can't go with them. I know what it is when senior players lift but why do we get that rabbit in the headlights look when these players make a stand? Isn't it to be expected?

I enjoyed the contest, thought we played some good footy and matched it with a side which has come back to us through injury. But still we will never be a team of any note when so many of our players can go missing leaving the game to be won by others. When one team lifts good teams respond. We seem to lack that extra gear.

I actually thought it a little sad when Lids and Bling got a fair bit of the ball after the game had been lost in the last quarter. Softened what was otherwise a terrible evening for the pair. Perhaps their opponnents finally eased up. Fairly sporting of them.
 
I think the worst possible thing has happened and we have become used to losing. Even among the supporters, there is very little outcry about last nights result. I sense the attitude of "ah well *shrug* not a bad effort for a few quarters". I fear for our future with this losing mindset.
 
mexican_radio said:
I think the worst possible thing has happened and we have become used to losing. Even among the supporters, there is very little outcry about last nights result. I sense the attitude of "ah well *shrug* not a bad effort for a few quarters". I fear for our future with this losing mindset.

disagree entirely

been seeing us send out suicide missions for years, and these kids are not of that ilk. There have been too many times we have been too close to beating teams so much better than us in terms of skill and experience for us to say its pure fluke.

For me, I think some of it is a lack of experience, not knowing how to keep the foot on the neck, but this will come as our list ages. On the other side, I think our smaller bodies and fewer pre-seasons also mean we struggle to run out games against the better units, but again this will improve with time.

I have looked into the abyss of RFC defeats, and this is not now :)
 
Fair enough, you disagree. The fact is we have beaten only the second worst team on their worst night and performance this year. I mean, I hope I am wrong but I am feeling down after another loss last night. Sometimes it seems the only reason we exist is to give other teams someone to beat.
 
mexican_radio said:
Fair enough, you disagree. The fact is we have beaten only the second worst team on their worst night and performance this year. I mean, I hope I am wrong but I am feeling down after another loss last night. Sometimes it seems the only reason we exist is to give other teams someone to beat.

Thats cool and I do get where you are coming from. I just remember seeing us in the late 80's, early 90's, late 90's when you would go to games hoping to win the fights and hoping the score would not be a complete disgrace. Every game this year you have had a sense of "we can win this" except for the Geelong train wreck.
 
mexican_radio said:
Fair enough, you disagree. The fact is we have beaten only the second worst team on their worst night and performance this year. I mean, I hope I am wrong but I am feeling down after another loss last night. Sometimes it seems the only reason we exist is to give other teams someone to beat.

with brown just back , our number 1 ruckman just back , i see good things for the club for the future with the list , yes dissapointing last night we didnt win but saints are no rollovers theyve a pretty good team mate and beat the cokers in perth the week before . footballs a game of inches sometimes an example is

demonds lost 5-6 games by under 5 points this year and there coach is gone

2006 they win 7 games by under 5 points and make the finals.
 
What you guys are saying makes logical sense, I just have this feeling that all these losses are forming a habit. But don't misunderstand me, I want nothing more than your optimistic outlook to be accurate. I'll be there singing the song as loud as I can if I can manage to see a win this year!
 
TigerMasochist said:
Easy, 'coz we aint good enough.
We've got a couple of talented seniors and a tribe of young gunna be kids.
Enough to keep us competitive most games not enough to crunch sides when it gets tight.

Pretty accurate and concise TM.
 
I go into every match thinking that we are a chance. Unfortunently, perfect example last night, if we are equal or just behind at 3/4 time, i don't really have much faith. It's hard to at the moment.
 
I went to the Roos-Dogs game today. I love watching the Dogs but today they played like the Tigers of recent years with poor skills, decision-making and system. It was a stark contrast to our play against the Saints the night before. I think our skills and system have also been pretty good in recent weeks.

We may only have 1.5 wins but this is far from our worst season in the past 20 years. I think it's abit like 2003 when the Dogs came close a lot and were considered the best team to ever win a wooden spoon.
 
Must admit to being with Mexican Radio a bit here. I am so sick of losing, week in week out...except for the Dees game of course. Personally, I don't care if the team we have an "honourable loss," against is in the eight, or near the bottom. Irrelevant!

What I was saying is this. Why do we get into a position so often to win, then compound??? Is it the mindset, Mex talks about, fear of winning, lack of discipline, inexperience or what???

All I know is, we just find ways to lose on a too frequent basis.
 
I THINK WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE FITNESS TO RUN OUT 4 QUARTERS. THE YOUNG BLOKES TIRE AND THEN COMES THE BAD DIPOSAL.

ANOTHER 1 OR 2 FULL PRESEASONS WILL HELP GREATLY. BE PATIENT WITH OPUR TIGER CUBS, THEY WILL GET BETTER.
 
it`s a combination of not being good enough and inexperience.
when we fill the huge gap in our list that terry has identified(something frawley didn`t even know existed!) then we will become a more consistent and better team.
it will happen,we just have to be patient.
at least plough knows why we aren`t any good at this stage,and he knows how to fix it.and he has been honest about how long it will take.
believe me we definitely have the right man in charge.
 
I thought we played reasonably well against a much stronger outfit on Saturday night and against one that we did not match up well on either.

We got blown away in the last quarter due to a lack of concentration which is to be expected every now and then when we’ve got such an inexperienced side.

We especially got belted out of the middle in that last quarter. They got easy, uncontested posession - Harvey in particular - and just ran straight down the corridor into open goal on a couple of occassions.

Our blokes were completely out of position at one or two centre bounces and paid the price for it. Foley, for as good as he is, is still young and really only now getting a genuine taste of it. Jackson, also young, was out of position at a few centre/midfield stoppages. Same with Deledio and Tambling. No excuse for Tuck and Tivendale though.