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Why wasnt Mitch Morton considered for the game against the Lions??

CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Rubbish.Ice the game.We were in control of the ball.Force Port to man up one on one.Then boot it in the fwd line[long].The fact of the matter is we had CONTROL of the ball.Thats the main advantage to have at that time of the game.Morton went outside team rules,simple as that.

What rule did he break?

Wet day, numbers in our 50, everyone flooding back and you want him to be cute with the ball and try to pin point the target. Please. Then he gets slandered for beign too cute by the likes of you.

Again, right idea, poor execution.
 
Tiger74 said:
how often have we iced the game well? normally we start chipping it, turn it over, and watch the ball race through for a goal at the other end.
So on one hand your saying he did the right thing by being "proactive" yet when it comes to icing the game,he or anyone should think geez we cant ice games so i better not try and find a teamate in the clear..Give me a break.
 
SCOOP said:
What rule did he break?

Wet day, numbers in our 50, everyone flooding back and you want him to be cute with the ball and try to pin point the target. Please. Then he gets slandered for beign too cute by the likes of you.

Again, right idea, poor execution.
Who said anything about trying to find a teamate in our Fwd 50?
 
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
So on one hand your saying he did the right thing by being "proactive" yet when it comes to icing the game,he or anyone should think geez we cant ice games so i better not try and find a teamate in the clear..Give me a break.

you seem to be completely forgetting that offensive and attacking footy had gotten us back into the game and back into the lead. It was working.

I would rather continue rolling the dice with attack, rather than resort to the plan of chip-chip-chip-damn!!! which only Joel, Terry, and yourself seem to believe works.
 
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Who said anything about trying to find a teamate in our Fwd 50?

So on a wet day you think the perecentage play is to go backwards when a goal will kill off the game? Wet day and you want to fiddle around with the ball.

The guy is trying to win the game. Put the ball in a dangerous spot. Playing positive football. Taking the game on, what many on PRE have screamed for. One of the few players with class trying to take the game on and you hang him out to dry.

Again Right idea, poor execution.

Now tell me, what rule did he break?
 
SCOOP said:
Wet day, percentage football is hitting the square, kicking long. From 55-60 that is the right play. We had crumbed the last two goal sqaure contests for goals. Right idea, poor Execution.

It would be pretty dissapointing if he got dropped for that.

I like his flare personally. I hope we don't grind that aspect our of his game. Guys like him and Nachos should have a little more leeway when it comes to "team rules". It's hard enough making a living as specialist forward pocket without the senior coach also cramping your style.

Lets face it we are already mediocre enough.
 
SCOOP said:
Now tell me, what rule did he break?

On the TV they said the rule was along the lines of centring the ball when in the pockets rather than going for the freak shot.

Personally don't think he broke the rule here - it was just a bad kick
 
SCOOP said:
So on a wet day you think the perecentage play is to go backwards when a goal will kill off the game? Wet day and you want to fiddle around with the ball.

The guy is trying to win the game. Put the ball in a dangerous spot. Playing positive football. Taking the game on, what many on PRE have screamed for. One of the few players with class trying to take the game on and you hang him out to dry.

Again Right idea, poor execution.

Now tell me, what rule did he break?
What Rule did he break.lets see.keep control of the ball.He was in no position to score a goal for certain.I mean geez he didnt even stop and eat away at the seconds then bomb it for goal if all other avenues are shut down by Port.
 
Ian4 said:
geoffryprettyboy, MB64 and rockstar_tiger, taking into account what MM did with 90 seconds left today, would you like to revisit your comments?

So you reckon your comments about 'gen Y' & 'flair' supports Morton's mistake. If you want to hang a player for one mistake then every player in the team had contributed to one *smile* up or another that contributed to an opposition goal.

I share the empathy you feel when Mitch kicked it on the full.
 
The message had gone out.

The damning thing about Morton's brainfade was that you could see all of Morton's teammates, close by screaming at him to stop and hold it up.

Mitch went for glory and made a mess of it.

Fine line I reckon.

He can be a showboat at times. I liken him to Medhurst when he was at Freo. We just need to polish the edges like Collingwood done with Medhurst.

We don't want another Pettifer which is what he will become if left to his own devices.
 
One-eyed Tiger said:
The message had gone out.

The damning thing about Morton's brainfade was that you could see all of Morton's teammates, close by screaming at him to stop and hold it up.

Mitch went for glory and made a mess of it.

Fine line I reckon.

He can be a showboat at times. I liken him to Medhurst when he was at Freo. We just need to polish the edges like Collingwood done with Medhurst.

We don't want another Pettifer which is what he will become if left to his own devices.

Nice analogy. Medhurst has become a very very good footballer. Morton has similar attributes.
 
A couple of weeks ago people said they'd rather see the side go down having a go than messing it up trying to chip it around. You can't have it both ways. At least this time someone had a go, rather than lose it trying to finesse and 'ice' the clock. There's absolutely no guarantee the same thing wouldn't have happened if he had tried to waste time, he may have kicked it directly to a Power player and seen it go downfield for a goal.
 
One-eyed Tiger said:
Fine line I reckon.

Not so sure about a fine line. He was 40 metres off target.

I think Morton is a talented player, and am prepared to put up with him being a bit goal hungry at times, but I think he got this one all wrong.

If they knew how long was left, there was no excuse for that outcome.

If he wanted to have a shot, go back and take 30 seconds off the clock and pretend you are. Or, at least wait until called to play on, and bomb it to a contest in our 50m with numbers at the fall.

Or, given there was 1:30 left, surely we could have found 5 targets sideways or backwards, given they had a few players behind the ball.

Equally bad was Tambling, who ignored Collins not 10 seconds earlier and then turned it over trying to spot up a leading player.

Disappointing, but I'm sure we'll learn from it, and I do appreciate that they were still prepared to take the game on. But, the execution has to improve, and we need to be smarter in those situations. Go forward, but use all the time you are given. This also needs our players off the ball to work harder too.
 
One-eyed Tiger said:
The message had gone out.

The damning thing about Morton's brainfade was that you could see all of Morton's teammates, close by screaming at him to stop and hold it up.

Mitch went for glory and made a mess of it.

If that's the case he deserves the criticism in this instance.

However earlier in the day he did the team thing beautifully by hitting Nahas with a perfect centering pass which led to a goal.

I agree with the calls to maintain his flair because he is capable of brilliance but he's already been dropped once (according to the media) for poor on field discipline.

Kid's gotta listen (even to Wallet) or it's a coaching nightmare.

Hopefully he'll learn when and when not to with experience & maturity.
 
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Didnt do the team thing.Went for individual Glory.

in the famous words of crawf... thats what i'm talking about!

Tiger74 said:
how often have we iced the game well? normally we start chipping it, turn it over, and watch the ball race through for a goal at the other end.

and look at what doing the opposite did for us? ::)
 
Ian4 said:
and look at what doing the opposite did for us? ::)

we have lost more games through chip-chip-chip-doh! than aggressive attacking footy.

much rather back our own momentum than relay on Bowden and co passing in the half back line