Win for next year

[cagedtiger]

Its a shame that we won so many games this year. The hawk will end up on the bottom again next year and will have taken almost half its list from uder pick 20. There list will be the next saints list in 3years time.

The real shame is supporters believing losing is a good thing.  What a cop out. 

If the team isn't working, waiting around for 3-5 years in hope the new blood will save the day is hardly providing significant management insight.  May as well get rid of the administration for the 3 years if that is all they can come up with - save heaps of money for a club that's for sure. 

The Saints have hardly blown the world apart and I don't recall too many people saying at the time when the Saints sat on the bottom of the ladder for 3 years what a great strategy it was.  There are too many genius's who only in hindsight use the Saints as a  so-called 'successful' bottom-out example.  The sooner priority picks are rid of the better.

you said it yourself they sat on the bottom for what  JUST 3yrs. COMPARE THAT TO US we have sat bottom half of the ladder for 23 yrs apart from 2 of those yrs because we have NOT BEEN PREPARED TO BOTTOM OUT AND DO THE HARD YRS.ffs even the dogs have gone below us and in a short period have gone pst us again because they have been prepared to bottom out and persevere with kids.the next team to go sailing past us will be the hawks and i wonder why that will be.

They have had one flag in over 100 years. Not what I call a winning culture. I tell you right now if they do not win a flag in the next 2 years they will very quickly go back to their traditional losing culture and they will run out of options as to what to do next as they won't be any priority picks to save them. They are hanging precariously in terms of the next few years if they don't win a flag.

You make a point like I am condoning Richmond's strategy pre-Wallace and post 1980 - well in fact I didn't bring up Richmond. Now that it is mentioned though, sure Richmond is a case in point in this period of what not to do, however there are many clubs who haven't bottomed out deliberately and they have made successful passage to a grand final.

Of course kids are crucial to development only an idiot will say otherwise, you don't need to bottom out deliberately to get good ones though. With that said though the 2 for price of 1 deal priority picks has been exploited unfairly.

The potential of Richmond's current crop of youngster's is right up there with the Bulldogs and the Hawks; what rot and pure guess work to suggest the Bullies and Hawks will be streaks ahead in the future because of their youth.

 

[Tigermad2005]

We have maybe two kids that maybe ok the rest have a long long way to go.

 

[Ian4]

we'll do well to achieve 10 wins in 06

 

[the claw]

.the next team to go sailing past us will be the hawks and i wonder why that will be.

tell me this Claw which would you prefer if you were in Lids shoes compared to say Franklins?
Wouldnt you prefer knowingly going into a game where you have a very good chance of winning because the foundations are in place for you to achieve it or in Franklins case going out and knowing that just maybe with a bit of luck we may win it.
Wouldnt you rather have a winning mindset from our cubs that in the long run will benefit not only the individual but the team as a whole?
You rant and rave about the past 20yrs yet you seem to believe "bottoming out"[losing mentallity] is the best option.Well hello there wasnt that part of our problem over the past 2 decades?

all ive asked for time and time again is that just once we use a 5 yr plan that focuses on taking kids with our early picks and taking recycled players no older than 24 also the proper utilising of the rookie list .its something we have not done since the draft came into being and its about time we learnt to follow thru a long term plan rather than bowing to percieved supporter unrest and going fro quick fixes.
if i were in lids shoes i would rather be at hawthorn than rfc.they have a shed load of high quality picks coming to their club (unlike us with just 3 or 4) a club and supporter base who are prepared to build over a long period of time (again unlike us).i know who out of franklin and lids is going to be under the more pressure to perform.
as for foundations being in place i reckon the hawks have more blocks of the puzzle than us after all we only finished 2 places above them this yr at a time when they actually played a lot of kids again unlike us.

 

[emerald]

all this talk of bottoming out just confirms that priority picks should be dumped.
i dont recall sydney getting that many priority picks in recent years.
they seem to have managed ok.


GO TIGES IN 2006

 

[tigertough12]

Gee theres alot of crap being written on these threads.

On one thread you have clowns writing play the kids so we bottom out then on another thread we have other clowns writing we shouldnt be playing the kids and need them to develop with coburg by getting their 30-35 positions.
Make your mind up ???

ps. 2006..... 5th - 8th
2007..... Top 4

 

[Darth Tiger]

Gee theres alot of crap being written on these threads.

On one thread you have clowns writing play the kids so we bottom out then on another thread we have other clowns writing we shouldnt be playing the kids and need them to develop with coburg by getting their 30-35 positions.
Make your mind up  ???

ps. 2006..... 5th - 8th
      2007..... Top 4

Agree TT12 about the drivel on this thread.

IMO, can't see the Tigers improving too much in 2006 for a tilt at the finals and would be lucky to win 8 games.

A combination of the draw and the list cycle just doesn't provide the depth for a genuine crack at the finals.

Would expect to see a couple of cameo performances, but with the bulk of the list either very young or very experienced, I expect an inconsistent year.

Will not stop me supporting The Mighty Tigers though !

 

[Inspector]

All preseason is about is pumping up the Tigers save any negitive talk for once the season starts deepending on how we go. I depth is still not as good as the top sides but is getting better with a full side on the park we will go ok!!

 

[craig]

Its a shame that we won so many games this year. The hawk will end up on the bottom again next year and will have taken almost half its list from uder pick 20. There list will be the next saints list in 3years time.

The real shame is supporters believing losing is a good thing.  What a cop out. 

If the team isn't working, waiting around for 3-5 years in hope the new blood will save the day is hardly providing significant management insight.  May as well get rid of the administration for the 3 years if that is all they can come up with - save heaps of money for a club that's for sure. 

The Saints have hardly blown the world apart and I don't recall too many people saying at the time when the Saints sat on the bottom of the ladder for 3 years what a great strategy it was.  There are too many genius's who only in hindsight use the Saints as a  so-called 'successful' bottom-out example.  The sooner priority picks are rid of the better.

you said it yourself they sat on the bottom for what  JUST 3yrs. COMPARE THAT TO US we have sat bottom half of the ladder for 23 yrs apart from 2 of those yrs because we have NOT BEEN PREPARED TO BOTTOM OUT AND DO THE HARD YRS.ffs even the dogs have gone below us and in a short period have gone pst us again because they have been prepared to bottom out and persevere with kids.the next team to go sailing past us will be the hawks and i wonder why that will be.

YEP well said

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

Gee theres alot of crap being written on these threads.

On one thread you have clowns writing play the kids so we bottom out then on another thread we have other clowns writing we shouldnt be playing the kids and need them to develop with coburg by getting their 30-35 positions.
Make your mind up  ???

ps. 2006..... 5th - 8th
      2007..... Top 4

So which circus do you come from TT?

 

[craig]

Unfortunately the more i look at the tiger list and the draw in 06 which is harder than the favourable draw we got in 05 i cant help but look past my passion for the yellow and blacks and come to the conclusion that 06 will be just another year for the RFC with i believe the side winning anywhere betweeen 7 to 10 games.

The list is essentially the same without depth yet again due to the lack of games played by youngsters such as Raines , Jackson and Hartigan primarily.

Our List in my opinion contains much too many ordinary footballers at AFL standard that i do not believe are good enought to take the tigers to September and to be quite honest i do not believe that any of these guys should be safe for 07 which is unfortunate with both Rodan and Hall earning two year contracts that both should have been one.

Hall

Hyde

Schulz

Pettifer

Chaffey

Tivendale

Stafford

Rodan

Krakouer

Roach

Moore

 

[Djevv]

Where can improvement come from next year? Here's some names:

Deledio: Huge leaning curve & improvement in 2005. Still has much to learn. Could be anything in 2006.

Tambling: Lots excited about him this time last year, has not fulfilled his potential this year, but with a good pre-season should show the football world why he was no. 4 pick.

Rodan: Has had basically a whole year to recover from his knee op. With a good pre-season could add pace & depth to the midfield and forward line.

Shultz: I really liked his work in the last few games of the season. Had a lot of presence without being spectacular. I have a funny feeling about this bloke coming of age in 2006. Could be our biggest improver.

Meyer, Patterson, Polo: One of these boys could really start taking the bull by the horns this year. You would expect at least one to take the next step.

Thursfield: I'm hopeful about this lad cementing his spot in the firsts, which would be a huge win for RFC.

This is my bit of crystal ball gazing for the moment. Depending on injuries, and especially how Browny comes back from injury the tiges could win anywhere from 8 to 13 games next year.

 

[Tigermad2005]

Still only see 4-5 wins next year.

 

[Djevv]

Still only see 4-5 wins next year.

Even if we don't improve much, but consolidate on last season we will win more than 5 games!

 

[Tigermad2005]

Yes but the other 15 teams will be looking to improve as well.

 

[feisty tige]

Yes but the other 15 teams will be looking to improve as well.

really? !

 

[poppa x]

we will improve on last year but the tough draw will mean we may win less games. My tip is 7 to 11 wins.

 

[skiptomystu]

7-8 wins, Finish 13th - due to rough draw, but players like Polo and even Limbach will really come on.

 

[tigerant17]

Shultz: I really liked his work in the last few games of the season. Had a lot of presence without being spectacular. I have a funny feeling about this bloke coming of age in 2006. Could be our biggest improver.

I agree. Shultzy lifted his game in the last few...i hope he continues the form...i also think Hall will continue to shine next season.

 

[Brettstigers]

7-8 wins, Finish 13th - due to rough draw, but players like Polo and even Limbach will really come on.

Reasonable appraisal, a few injuries and 8 wins could look a tough ask.  I am truly looking forward to a season where the kids are being consistently played, win, lose or draw - don't care - the time to play the kids into AFL players is now. (Well soon...)

Actually have heard we have a new tactics coach.  Absolute genius, does it for the challenge not the money and 23 years away from the cup... Richmond is definitely a challenge (Goose, Goose, Goose).  Oh!  The socceroos have got him stitched up - they haven't seen the cup for 34 years.  ;D