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yandb said:
For accuracy's sake I believe that he was convicted of covering up crimes not being a paedophile.

Actually the guilty verdict that we are not supposed to know about was apparently in relation to actual sexual assault.
 
yandb said:
For accuracy's sake I believe that he was convicted of covering up crimes not being a paedophile.
Not sure you'd get convicted of covering up crimes if you were actively involved in them as the perpetrator. Frigging disgrace that the courts have forced a media ban on reporting over this matter.

Isn't the historical cover up n silence over the Peddo priests the biggest reason that this problem was allowed to go on for so many generations destroying so may children world wide? Now we have the
" Learned Judges " helping to cover up n protect the perps, some justice system.
 
JimJessTorp said:
TM - In the situation where other charges against a convicted person are moving though the court process the suppression order is to protect the integrity of those cases.
Yup. Happy with suppression in this case. Hopefully more pain ahead
 
JimJessTorp said:
TM - In the situation where other charges against a convicted person are moving though the court process the suppression order is to protect the integrity of those cases.
Yeah, but it's a total WOFTAM suppressing and / or even continuing with the drawn out saga of " did he cover up for a peddo mate " when he himself has supposedly now been convicted of being an active peddo.
It's already been proven over and over all around the world that the hierarchy of the cattle tick church protected n covered up for their peddo mates for generations.
 
IanG said:
Actually the guilty verdict that we are not supposed to know about was apparently in relation to actual sexual assault.

Absolutely correct - with the unsuppressed details of the court case and conviction published in other parts of the world such as various US newspapers.
 
There will be no witnesses testifying at the trial due to harassment from the church. No conviction. Jesus loves you. Let’s get on with nuking the muslims.
 
123kid said:
With all this obfuscation, I for one think Pell’s been brave.

In what way? He took ages to front the royal commission, has been found guilty of charges dating back 2 decades, has protected a number of guilty priests and is soon to defend further charges.

What courage did all this require?
 
123kid said:
With all this obfuscation, I for one think Pell’s been brave.
Geezers! There's a lot of words in the dictionary I would have thought more appropriate than "brave".
 
Absolutely nothing brave about a convicted pedophile..

These church related offences IMO are worse in that not only did those convicted abuse Children they and others in the church covered it up.

As a father of 2 young kids, Personally this is one of the convictions that I believe castration or capital punishment are fitting..

Brave is certainly not a word I would use describing these heinous people.
 
Tigertough1974 said:
Absolutely nothing brave about a convicted pedophile..

These church related offences IMO are worse in that not only did those convicted abuse Children they and others in the church covered it up.

As a father of 2 young kids, Personally this is one of the convictions that I believe castration or capital punishment are fitting..

Brave is certainly not a word I would use describing these heinous people.

The main point to me has always been the offenders use of the trust and authority of the church to offend.
 
Legends of 2017 said:
Brave as in essendrugs players type of 'brave'?

In the face of media obfuscation and conspiracies, nobody was braver than Jobe and his boys.

Of course Pell was brave, too.
 
123kid said:
In the face of media obfuscation and conspiracies, nobody was braver than Jobe and his boys.

Of course Pell was brave, too.

Maybe Hirdy confessed to Pell
 
Tigerdangerous said:
Propaganda comes in many forms but it’s mostly about telling the world (in this case trying to pacify the Tiger army) that within the clubs 4 walls everything is fine, solid and going to plan.

If the powers that be at Punt Rd truly believe that then we have more years of pain and disappointment to endure because most on this site don’t believe such platitudes and we have every right not believe such propaganda.
Let’s focus on just two aspects only that make the RFC vulnerable and unreliable from week to week.

Culture: From where I sit the club has gone down a road, once the finances were secured several years ago, of engaging far too much in social/cultural programs, encouraged and endorsed by the media savvy AFL with feel good stories spilling out of Punt Rd on a regular basis. I don’t believe there has been as much administrative effort into winning a premiership by comparison and the make-up of the board (including the president) reflects this. I’m happy for the tremendous team bonding, the tears flowing when a player leaves the club (actually I’m not – that stuff should be kept within the clubs 4 walls!), but if that’s not balanced with cold, hard truths come game day when players are not performing and there are no changes from the box, the opposition will and do smell the opportunity to bury us. When I read articles about the club and Richmond players it feels like I’m reading a kindergarten report; with all the little petals doing okay while we add another social program with great fanfare to what is looking more and more like a Social Sciences Institute down at Punt Rd than a footy club. Culture that is focused on hard training, and ruthless team selections (with pro-active coaching on game day) that is pursing one thing and one thing only; of playing in a Grand Final, will play in a Grand Final and not have to wait for more than 30 years to do so.

Leadership: The culture down at Punt Rd does not produce the sort of leadership and captains that will marshal the troops for 4 quarters in a game; who will berate a team mate in front of 60 thousand screaming supporters because they pulled out of a contest. Our leaders are nice people off the field and unfortunately, on the field. The RFC culture it seems uses football to groom solid citizens but not leaders on a footy field that will put the fear of God into an opposition player when one of his go down behind play, for example. The culture at the RFC accepts defeat too easily, has created teams that are mentally soft and never rise to an important occasion when the eyes of the media are on them. The RFC has not produced anybody like a Luke Hodge in 4 generations and the culture today would not permit the next Luke Hodge to walk through the doors at Punt Rd anyway!!!

The RFC has lost its way over many years. Footy is not about being the nicest club, producing the best solid citizens for life after football. A football club is a seriously competitive environment that is about pushing one another at training and going even further on game day. Celebrating the successes and telling a team mate don’t ever hide from a contest again! A real football club would drop that player because a real football club trains and plays to win premierships. That should be its only goal. Anything else is PR, food for the moronic media and icing on the cake of AFL determined programs to score a few brownie points with the boss.

All the talk in the world, all the analysis after game day, win, lose or draw, like I read on this site among others, will not change the fact that in its current state my beloved Tigers are nowhere near a premiership.

But with the right broom doing a bit of serious sweeping that could change very quickly. ;)
Unbelievable. In its current state we've won a flag, made a prelim, debt free, over 100k members and recruited arguably the best forward in the league and you reckon we need a bit of serious sweeping.

You must be either an opposition supporter trolling this site, or part of the failed 2016 coup.
 
ahyeahnah said:
Unbelievable. In its current state we've won a flag, made a prelim, debt free, over 100k members and recruited arguably the best forward in the league and you reckon we need a bit of serious sweeping.

You must be either an opposition supporter trolling this site, or part of the failed 2016 coup.
Interestingly that post was written in July 2017 just 2 months before we won the flag. Whilst somewhat OTT i wouldn’t be too critical of the author because even then it was hard to believe we could win a flag that year. Maybe it was written after the St Kilda game debacle?

What a long way or club has come !!
 
Sintiger said:
Interestingly that post was written in July 2017 just 2 months before we won the flag. Whilst somewhat OTT i wouldn’t be too critical of the author because even then it was hard to believe we could win a flag that year. Maybe it was written after the St Kilda game debacle?

What a long way or club has come !!
I hadn't noticed the date of the original post so apologies if anyone was put out by my comments
 
ahyeahnah said:
I hadn't noticed the date of the original post so apologies if anyone was put out by my comments
I reckon many of us have made that mistake!

I just found it interesting that the post was written on July 11 2017 which was straight after the st kilda at Etihad. Since that game we have gone 28-6 and won a flag and a minor premiership.

Just shows how quickly things can turn