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He probably didnt LT77- has a opinion from somthing out of the late 60's early 70's and cant keep pace with the real world :spin :spin :spin
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Would Chris Hyde be in Trade Talks?
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He probably didnt LT77- has a opinion from somthing out of the late 60's early 70's and cant keep pace with the real world :spin :spin :spin
Tiger Endevour said:
it it wasn't for people like me you would still be eating meatloaf out of a can
;D ;D
I would imagine Chris Hyde is a younger version of Chaffey. You'd take him into battle with you for his bravery, but not for his talent (he makes the most of what he has).
I'm happy to keep him, but I can see that he will probably not get a great deal better than he has, and probably won't have much more currency in years to come (his style of play will probably see him worn down earlier than most with injuries).
I'm happy to keep him, but I can see that he will probably not get a great deal better than he has, and probably won't have much more currency in years to come (his style of play will probably see him worn down earlier than most with injuries).
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LeboTiger77 said:
2005 Games Kicks Marks H.Balls Disp Goals Pts Tack
Tivendale 19 191 74 121 312 5 8 35
Hyde 17 136 65 125 261 3 2 35
And they are also joint leaders at the club for being run down with the ball while showing no awareness whatsoever that there are opposition players behind them on the ground.
Bill James said:
your personal vendetta towards me has become boring and tedious. your investigative prowess in order to try to prove me wrong every chance you get you get is also admirable. however yourarguement is flawed as usual.
hyde played very little game time in the match he was injured and in the matches after he came back from the injury he suffered. i would rather the ball in hydes hands running down the wing than in the hnds of tivendale who is supposed to be a skilled disposer of the ball.
it would be interesting to see a clanger count for the pair of them
LeboTiger77 said:it it wasn't for people like me you would still be eating meatloaf out of a can
:cutelaugh :cutelaugh :cutelaugh
Bill James said:
If ever statistics have been used to dusguise the truth this is a perfect example.
No real comparison between the two - Hyde is a player and a trooper. Tivendale is a wimp - physically and mentally.
tiger in the night said:
dont stress tiin
this dill, sorry bill takes every chance he gets to try to belittle me. he is quite the *smile* stirer
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As usual Jack a beacon of information and insight.Dyer'ere said:
I doubt they'll trade him. Wallace rates Hydey big time.
Chris may struggle to get game time in the middle but who knows?
He was setting the world on fire before the headclash robbed him off confidence mid way through the season. Understandibly too. A fractured skull? That takes some time to get over and some guts too I'm sure.
His form was beginning to return towards the year and we have no idea whether he's peaked or not yet. His improvement over the last couple of seasons has been marked compared with some other players on the list. Wallace didn't give him his nickame "Monsta" for no good reason. He likes the way Chris plays.
It'd certainly be worth giving him a shot down back but he may well continue with a tagging role in the centre.
I like Hyde a lot and I hope he stays. Good, honest, gutsy footballer. Every team needs those.
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LeboTiger77 said:
Not personal Habib, but you bag the crap out of Tivendale and wrap up Hyde and in my view there is not much between the two of them. They also share very poor awareness, the number of times these two players get caught with the ball when it is obvious they are hot staggers me. With respect to running down the wing, I'd rather they both handballed to Delidio.
imo hyde is is a battler at best. i believe he was taken with pick 40 in 2000 delisted and redrafted with pick 68 in 01 pick 68 represents his true value to the club.
given a choice between hyde and *smile* i would take hyde anyday at least hes prepared to put his head over the ball.doesnt say much for tivvas worth does it.
given a choice between hyde and *smile* i would take hyde anyday at least hes prepared to put his head over the ball.doesnt say much for tivvas worth does it.
the claw said:
Totally agree with you there claw.
Hyde like Tivendale hit opposition players lace out, both hacks!!!!
I'd take Hyde over Tivendale any day. Hyde would be a far better tagging option than Chaffey, other than continually give the ball to the opposition Tivendale adds nothing to the side.
There are two big issues that have to be considered when comparing Tivendale and Hyde 2005.
The first issue, as has already been mentioned, is that Hyde did not come up from the fractured skull.
The second is that Hyde, when right, does his work in traffic. He carries tha ball out of the traffic and, IMO, is a pretty good user, albeit short, given the difficulty of the task.
Tivendale works in space. That's why his turnovers are so much less palatable. Other blokes are doing the yakka and Tivendale squanders the profits. Eighteen blokes and one steer make some pretty big sacrifices for the profligate Tivendale.
Tivendale has done a better job than Hyde in 2005 of negating other midfielders. Insanely, it appears that he is the better defensive mid on recent form.
The first issue, as has already been mentioned, is that Hyde did not come up from the fractured skull.
The second is that Hyde, when right, does his work in traffic. He carries tha ball out of the traffic and, IMO, is a pretty good user, albeit short, given the difficulty of the task.
Tivendale works in space. That's why his turnovers are so much less palatable. Other blokes are doing the yakka and Tivendale squanders the profits. Eighteen blokes and one steer make some pretty big sacrifices for the profligate Tivendale.
Tivendale has done a better job than Hyde in 2005 of negating other midfielders. Insanely, it appears that he is the better defensive mid on recent form.
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