just read terry's article in the latest mag about the 1st training session - lots of good info but one point really stuck out - he is amazed at how some of the younger guys don't put in th effort over the rest period and come back underdone - i wonder who he is talking about??
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younger guys underdone at 1st training session
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LeighW said:
Bugger the "formal" discussion Leigh. Do you think if you had the opportunity to play league football that you would just slack off over the off season or bust your gut to try and get into the firsts. Bloody hell if this is true we have a long way to go. If these guys dont get it when they have the opportunity to make it in the big league then bugger off. I'm bloody sick of seeing some RFC players coasting for the past 25 years just cause they are on the list. Time to change the culture down at this club.
I haven't read the article yet but .... I totally agree, and I think that is what Terry is trying to achieve.Tubytiger said:
I believe he would have publicised it to put the wind up the players concerned via public scrutiny IMO.
No it's not all - it's not good enough!
Tuby's right, the culture at RFC has to change!
You want to p!ss-up? fine, hang up the boots and forget about becoming a footballer. But, if you really want to play footy for the Tiges, give it your best shot.
How can young fellas be underdone in only a few weeks? Not good enough!
Tuby's right, the culture at RFC has to change!
You want to p!ss-up? fine, hang up the boots and forget about becoming a footballer. But, if you really want to play footy for the Tiges, give it your best shot.
How can young fellas be underdone in only a few weeks? Not good enough!
I bet every club has some guys come back for training that have put on a couple of kgs. I bet for as long as oxygen pumps through my lungs there always will be someone who does it.
Agreed General.Storm in a tea cup reaction.They have 3mnths to get back into shape.2 weeks would probally just about do it.The_General said:
The_General said:
Yep General, when we were young we were all bullet-proof, we knew better than most, and there was always tomorrow. AFL, VFL, VAFA to little league (well maybe not little league) all have certain individuals that will do just what Terry's commented on. It's called group dynamics and everyone has a part to play - as long Terry pllays his part - no hassles......just thank your lucky stars that Frawley not there saying "they'll be cherry ripe come Round 1 ;D
tote said:
I'd be surprised if there are player's "underdone". What TW may be hinting, is that some players are expected to be in better shape, given the importance of development to the individual & RFC.
Every club in the competition is trying to gain a competitive advantage against one another. Just doing the bare minimum makes it difficult to go that extra step. This can be extremely frustrating for a coach like TW who demands excellence. It also illustrates some player's are not prepared to make the sacrafices required to get their hands on the holy grail.
In similar circumstances, Malthouse & Collingwood identified the difficulty their players faced after losing the GF twice. Collingwoods trip to Arizona is a clear example of a club wanting to erase the memories of failure and instill the mental & physical toughness that will (again) give them the advantage over 15 other clubs. Those who cannot meet this expectation will be quickly separated from those who are !
Ian4 said:
Exactly...which is why they wont have any concerns about the fitness of their players prior to Christmas.
Just so we're dealing with some facts.
To develop an endurance athlete (read mid fielder) three years continuous training. Nothing more than a two week break at any time.
It takes that long to get the miles into your legs so that you can utilise that endurance during a season.
Speed endurance (pretty much everybody else on the field nowadays) at least two years.
So a six week break with no effort to improve is a lost opportunity.
However I doubt it will happen next year. And that's how you change a clubs culture. On step at a time. It's not an overnight thing.
To develop an endurance athlete (read mid fielder) three years continuous training. Nothing more than a two week break at any time.
It takes that long to get the miles into your legs so that you can utilise that endurance during a season.
Speed endurance (pretty much everybody else on the field nowadays) at least two years.
So a six week break with no effort to improve is a lost opportunity.
However I doubt it will happen next year. And that's how you change a clubs culture. On step at a time. It's not an overnight thing.
HKTiger said:
Geez sounds like we are talking about robots. How is it that everyone falls into the above category? I've met people who have natural endurance abilities who can take time off and then come back almost as if nothing has happened. I 've met others who have to work hard their whole lives to maintain fitness and even a week sets them back enormously. The facts you mention arent facts at all. There are recommendations which may make you more likely to achieve desired results but everyone is different. These recommendations now were completely different 10 years ago, and will no doubt be different in 10 years time.
This 'younger guy' stuff is merely TW tactics. He's very good at it. If you're going to be underdone, then this is the time to be underdone. Like anyone, you peak and you trough. Storm in a teacup comments by some of you!
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rosy23 said:JBAR said:
Certain?
Well Lids couldn't be underdone, he hasn't stopped since round 22. Krak has been seen doing his own training in the off-season. Could Mr Meyer be underdone?
Now I don't believe this is the case but had these kids been hitting the weight room real hard to the exclusion of everything else and eating a lot of carbs and protein then that would be an excuse. That is the best way to build muscle - the exercise just diverts the energy needed away from the muscle building.
Goodone,
Yeah I was a little strong in using the term "fact" however at the elite athlete level and that's what AFL footballers purport to be nowadays, you can't just turn it on and off. It is a two to three year build up to get the necessary endurance/speed endurance into the players.
Yeah I was a little strong in using the term "fact" however at the elite athlete level and that's what AFL footballers purport to be nowadays, you can't just turn it on and off. It is a two to three year build up to get the necessary endurance/speed endurance into the players.
