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Samson Ryan
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IMO we should give him a game this week ahead of Naismith.
Has had solid form in the twos the past 3 weeks now & has earned a call up.
Balta returning likely next week so may not get another snr opportunity for a while.
Let's see if the good form shown at VFL level translates to snr footy.
Not looking for him to star, just looking for improvement at AFL level.
Has had solid form in the twos the past 3 weeks now & has earned a call up.
Balta returning likely next week so may not get another snr opportunity for a while.
Let's see if the good form shown at VFL level translates to snr footy.
Not looking for him to star, just looking for improvement at AFL level.
I'm not saying bash him, ed! Just insist he dominate the VFL before we bring him into the bigs.
I see he had five contested marks last week. Big number. Maybe the coach thinks that's enough.
I admit I’m a bit of a weather vane on Samson. Given our ladder position I think we might as well play him in the seniors, why wait? But I also see him in the VFL games and while there’s improvement he still has a way to go.
Samson showed plenty of promise last year in snr games. I’d be searching for some of that as a starting point. With list decisions looming we need to see where he’s at.
Sam Draper averages 9D, 15HO, .3GL, 2.2MK, 3CL. He gets a game. And spends time forward. He is a ruck and a very promising one IMO.
He's a naturally more dominant style of player than Samson. But he doesn't get numbers. And he gets towelled up at times. That's why Goldstein is there. BTW Draper drops his head in game. He gets tired from the grind of rucking.
The biggest myth about rucks is that they mark the ball. They don't stand up to *smile* because they're hypermasculine; it's because they fall off the toilet.
Toby Conway got 20 touches in the magoos last week. 3 goals. 40HO. 3 marks.
Lloyd Meek is 26yo. Couldn't get a game at Freo behind Darcy and then was denied a game at Hawthorn behind the CEO's son. Meek has looked like a bust for years. He slaughtered Toby Conway a few weeks ago. The thing about Meek is he's finally getting a game and can develop.
A few weeks ago Samson annihilated Pittonet. He destroys everybody at VFL level and has done for a year or so. (Was challenged by Conway.)
Samson is the only one of these emerging rucks who is being developed as a forward. And he keeps improving. I'm ok with the persecution. I think spook is right about that.
But we're getting close to a time when we have to promote Samson. It will be this year. Nank can play FF. He's been developed.
He's a naturally more dominant style of player than Samson. But he doesn't get numbers. And he gets towelled up at times. That's why Goldstein is there. BTW Draper drops his head in game. He gets tired from the grind of rucking.
The biggest myth about rucks is that they mark the ball. They don't stand up to *smile* because they're hypermasculine; it's because they fall off the toilet.
Toby Conway got 20 touches in the magoos last week. 3 goals. 40HO. 3 marks.
Lloyd Meek is 26yo. Couldn't get a game at Freo behind Darcy and then was denied a game at Hawthorn behind the CEO's son. Meek has looked like a bust for years. He slaughtered Toby Conway a few weeks ago. The thing about Meek is he's finally getting a game and can develop.
A few weeks ago Samson annihilated Pittonet. He destroys everybody at VFL level and has done for a year or so. (Was challenged by Conway.)
Samson is the only one of these emerging rucks who is being developed as a forward. And he keeps improving. I'm ok with the persecution. I think spook is right about that.
But we're getting close to a time when we have to promote Samson. It will be this year. Nank can play FF. He's been developed.
Strange comparison TBH Tooheys.
Very different players, size, height and background to the sport.
Nank's a cruiserweight, Olds. An antiruck. Ground support. A bit like RoMa but twice the player.
Samson is a dinosaur. FWIW I think it's a lack of mobility that is his biggest limitation atm.
The ones early in the season. He was tracking ok for a young ruck/fwd. Tapered off about the time Dimma left.
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That was at at time when Shaun Grigg could be a premiership ruckman.
He did. In that period last year where he was first ruck backed up by Miller he showed plenty and his ruck work was good.
He has to play imo. He kicks the ball really well which is something Naismith doesn’t do and we would be getting more senior experience into him.
I think he is a ruck in the end but he is a much better forward option than Naismith as well.
I am with you on Samson. Right now a bit too much Delilah in him. However, I thought that Sam N age etc has caught up with him last week so maybe we swop Sam with Samson this week to see where he is at
Absolutely. Surely at this point he learns more at AFL level. I'm expecting him to play.
