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2021 Draft Thread

Redford

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Matt Clarke on SEN now

No talent being added in Rookie Draft except re-drafting Biggie
Well there goes code name. Might get a sight in the mid season so better stay quiet. Young, raw chb/chf that moves a bit like Balta at times. Has a long way to go though.
 
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caesar

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Tremendous four minutes of saying absolutely nothing. Master of it. Well played.
Well at least PRE can stop speculating on the Rookie Draft, irrelevant to us it seems.
 
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King Kong

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Hearing we wanted Kai Lohmann, however, apart from him we were very happy with our picks.

Apparently a very close call between Brown, Lohmann and Johnson at 17.

Wrapt to get Sonsie and Banks in the late 20s.
 
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mrposhman

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Maybe a tad harsh by Knightmare.

Richmond

Picks: 9, 17, 28, 29, 30

Players drafted: Josh Gibcus, Tom Brown, Tyler Sonsie, Sam Banks, Judson Clarke

Grade: D+

Rationale: Richmond searched for long term replacements for retired duo David Astbury and Bachar Houli and believe they have found two with the additions of Gibcus as a high leaping key defender and Brown as a speedy rebounding defender. Within the industry, Gibcus and Brown are commonly rated highly, picks 9 and 17 is a lot to pay for a key defender and a rebounding defender who may not be the best at their respective positions at the picks they were taken. Sonsie, as a skilful midfielder, and Clark, as a speedy, classy kicking small forward, were picked in the range expected, though Banks, a rebounding defender, was selected earlier than predicted.


Laughable, don't need to go past this line.

"Within the industry, Gibcus and Brown are commonly rated highly, picks 9 and 17 is a lot to pay for a key defender and a rebounding defender who may not be the best at their respective positions at the picks they were taken."

So who were the better key defenders compared to Gibcus??????
 

taztiger4

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Laughable, don't need to go past this line.

"Within the industry, Gibcus and Brown are commonly rated highly, picks 9 and 17 is a lot to pay for a key defender and a rebounding defender who may not be the best at their respective positions at the picks they were taken."

So who were the better key defenders compared to Gibcus??????
he is a *smile* idiot
 
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mrposhman

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I always though you can have up to 3 catergory B in addition to 6 cat A.
Not that l think we have any cat b player's in mind this year.

You can. I just didn't mention them as we haven't been linked to anyone. We will have 43 on the list once we fill Biggie back onto the rookie list.
 

Stylo

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Laughable, don't need to go past this line.

"Within the industry, Gibcus and Brown are commonly rated highly, picks 9 and 17 is a lot to pay for a key defender and a rebounding defender who may not be the best at their respective positions at the picks they were taken."

So who were the better key defenders compared to Gibcus??????

he had Alleer rated #9, Gibcus #15 :unsure:

i guess he was somewhat vindicated in his high ranking of Alleer and Sheldrick (#11). but he also had Uwhland in his top 20 who wasn't drafted at all, and Taylor at #12 (#44).

his assessment of our haul is utter garbage.
 

taztiger4

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I always though you can have up to 3 catergory B in addition to 6 cat A.
Not that l think we have any cat b player's in mind this year.
No, you can have only 2 Cat Bs as below
Minimum 37 players all up on list
Maximum 44 players all up on list inc 2 Cat B
Minimum 36 & max 38 on main list
4-6 Cat A Rookies
2 Cat B Rookies
 
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Stylo

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post from Trav 20 on bigfooty:

Knightmare is a high production poster, but I wouldn't get too hung up in his immediate post draft gradings. All he'll do is cross reference his own power rankings and predictions against a club's selections. It will be some time before there's any meaningful rankings.

For example, in his 2019 postmortem he rated Melbourne equal last (along with 5 other clubs) and 12 clubs ahead of them.

He gave Melbourne an unflattering C.

"While Melbourne's trade looks on paper like value was acquired, their first two picks of ruckman Luke Jackson and small forward pressure specialist Kysaiah Pickett are arguably reaches. Jackson, a sub 200cm ruckman is athletic, plays with aggression and follows up well but was arguably not the best available player. Similarly, Pickett while the forward pressure he applies is of a best in draft standard and he has speed and is damaging with ball in hand, his low scoreboard impact and product makes him a difficult sell so early on." Thankfully, he liked the Rivers pick.

Amazingly, Melbourne have 3 premiership players from that draft, i.e. every 2019 National Draft pick, who are all staples in the best 22; including this year's overall Rising Star winner, a 40 goal small forward and another Rising Star nominee.

He was more encouraged by the team he supports, giving Collingwood an A.

''Jay Rantall represents strong value as a basketball convert with elite endurance who does his best work inside winning the contested ball, distributing by hand and moving through traffic. Oakleigh premiership captain Trent Bianco is a second selection who represents strong value as one of the best kicks in the draft and the most advanced outside player in the pool. Trey Ruscoe at 192cm with his versatility to play defence, midfield or forward, is a third solid selection with his skills, mobility, ball winning capabilities and the way he reads the ball in flight and takes marks.''

Jason Taylor and other recruiters/list managers would look at these ''gradings'' with a degree of mirth.
 
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Redford

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His initials aren't AC are they.
No.

One of us should get the passcodes to the Rookie Draft and pretend we’re acting on behalf of a club that isn’t participating and won’t be showing up. And then make a heap of numptie selections on their behalf.

Are Cwood participating ? I could get in there and select Josh Jenkins and Irving Mosquito for them and Knightmare could write about how Cwood killed it.
 
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toothless

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Laughable, don't need to go past this line.

"Within the industry, Gibcus and Brown are commonly rated highly, picks 9 and 17 is a lot to pay for a key defender and a rebounding defender who may not be the best at their respective positions at the picks they were taken."

So who were the better key defenders compared to Gibcus??????
He rates Alleer higher than Gibcus...
 
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