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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

achillesjones

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I am stunned that a punter has not issued a legal challenge on this decision. Amateur hour from the AFL with massive money riding on the highly dubious decision to reverse an official's call.
 
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achillesjones

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:ROFLMAO:

You have such a chip on your shoulder about umpires, you turn into Homer Simpson as soon as they come up. You can run forward if you go back more than 5.

I just checked the channel 7 feed, he didn't stand back, the umpire calls play on.

The other thing I noticed from watching it again was just what a horrible miss it was. Such a simple shot. :(
",,,what a horrible miss it was.'
So confidently definitive among a world of uncertainty about this. You are either here just to wind suffering Tigers up or you are drinking your own bathwater. Which is it? Perhaps a little from Column A and a little from Column B.
 
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Ian4

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All season long the commentators and media drone on and on whenever there is a close call on a score review "gee you just hope it doesn't decide a close final".

And yet here we are, it has decided a close game, it has ended our season, and I can hear the crickets.

If the AFL had any evidence that the right decision was made they would've given it to the media. Are the RFC just going to let them get away with it again?

This.

Going by the footage shown on PRE on Friday, I am absolutely convinced it was a goal. The ball clearly passed the inside on the goal post.

After the game on Thursday, the AFL came out and said the decision was correct. On Friday all of this footage came out and contradicted this. 3 more days have passed and crickets from the AFL. The footy public, the media as well as the RFC players and supporters need the AFL to come and out admit they got it wrong.

I’m also sick of the media being AFL sycophants. On Saturday Whateley said “they got the process wrong, but the decision right.” Garry Lyon made reference this morning to it being a point. I wanted to tear my *smile* hair out. I found myself screaming at the radio. Why don’t these idiots take on city hall from time to time? Scared of losing their accreditation? If the AFL is wrong, they have a duty to do their job.

We can complain all we like but the decision stood and cannot be changed now. That it was wrong is immaterial

Nah, I think for the sake of transparency, I just want them to admit they got it wrong. As I said ^^^, the media keep claiming it was a point when it wasn’t. This just needs to be corrected.

IMO the narrative in all of this is wrong. People keep talking about the ARC when we should be talking about the fact that a legitimate goal was overturned.
 
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The Big Richo

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Once an official review is taking place, the review centre controls exactly what viewers at home and at the ground can see. The broadcasters can only use the output being given to them by the review centre. It means there can be no confusion for fans.

Unless that has changed since 2020 that is absolutely incorrect. I've seen it with my own eyes many times on two monitors side by side, one with the TV feed and one with the raw feed from the cameras.

I am stunned that a punter has not issued a legal challenge on this decision. Amateur hour from the AFL with massive money riding on the highly dubious decision to reverse an official's call.

Think it has been tested many times in sports that a decision by officials doesn't stand up to any legal challenge.
",,,what a horrible miss it was.'
So confidently definitive among a world of uncertainty about this. You are either here just to wind suffering Tigers up or you are drinking your own bathwater. Which is it? Perhaps a little from Column A and a little from Column B.

As I heard many times in cricket, see what it says in the newspaper tomorrow. Fact is, he kicked a point on the scoreboard.

Whether or not he actually kicked a goal or a point, my point is it should never have got to a place where there was a question. He should have kicked it easily. Terrible miss (or close goal).
 

MD Jazz

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Unless that has changed since 2020 that is absolutely incorrect. I've seen it with my own eyes many times on two monitors side by side, one with the TV feed and one with the raw feed from the cameras.
So the Sam McClure article it is quoted from is incorrect?

This isn't rocket science yet there is so much confusion around what is meant to be a process! A process that has been put in place to get more decisions correct. Yet it appears there's some sort of veil of secrecy around the whole thing (they call it a bunker FFS as if they are hiding somewhere) and the AFL clearly have no interest in transparency.

What a shitshow.
 
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HR

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Whether or not he actually kicked a goal or a point, my point is it should never have got to a place where there was a question. He should have kicked it easily. Terrible miss (or close goal).
Wrong. The umpire should not have been overturned. Tom did nothing wrong, stop blaming him.
There are and will be many more shots at goal where there is a questionable outcome. There were at least 2 more that I saw on the weekend. Dress what the result was?
The AFL need to follow their own rules. Everytime.
Every comment in this thread would not have been made had the AFL done what they said they would do.
They are armature hour.
 
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The Big Richo

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Wrong. The umpire should not have been overturned. Tom did nothing wrong, stop blaming him.
There are and will be many more shots at goal where there is a questionable outcome. There were at least 2 more that I saw on the weekend. Dress what the result was?
The AFL need to follow their own rules. Everytime.
Every comment in this thread would not have been made had the AFL done what they said they would do.
They are armature hour.

Don't disagree with any of that but it doesn't change my view that regardless of what happened with the review, it shouldn't have been required because Lynch should have kicked it comfortably.

He's a poor finisher from close range and used a terrible technique to approach the shot. If just about anyone else had the ball we would be in the semi-final.
 
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RoarEmotion

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Unfortunately both things are true.

It seems the afl didn’t follow their own processes and are going to sweep it under the carpet.

Some brain dead skill errors and decision making cost us another close game. (But I would also posit that in any close game you lose you have some stuff you deeply regret and when you win then the other team has the same.
 
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RoarEmotion

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I reckon we will see a vast improvement this week. I was always worried with a week 1 away final.

With just two games you get the six best umpires out of a pool of twenty four. Top 25% vs top 50% in week one.

We saw this the last time in week 1 at Gabba and have rarely complained from week 2 onwards. 2017 week 1 were some *smile* dives paid to Geelong - weaker umpires. Luckily that day we smashed the pricks in the second half.
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daniel30

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Sorry to say people a dreaming if they think the afl will admit fault they a masters sweeping things under the carpet corrupt.
 
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TigerMasochist

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You know what annoys me as well, they keep calling this technology like its something revolutionary. Goal line technology in soccer is revolutionary. This isn't even technology.

Its a guy, watching the same tv cameras we've always had. What have the AFL spent on this, a few TV monitors and the wages of a couple of people. Seriously, the game requires and deserves a lot more.

This is the AFLs version of the NBN. Go cheap and you get a cheap result.
Yep, footage from cameras a hundred n fifty metres up the ground is hardly gunna present a definitive result. One camera on each goal post phhht, I wonder which way the bloody thing is pointing.
Could be using the best quality technology ever invented, but if it's in the wrong place or pointing in the wrong direction it aint worth *smile*.
 

RoarEmotion

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I guess they should shoot a big laser *smile* beam out of the top of each post.

But knowing our luck the afl will have a robotic seagul to fly over it at the right time.
 
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WildStyle

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What happened is they saw that one angle of the ball on the wrong side of the post and rushed to a decision before thinking it through properly. Now the AFL are pretending that footage was definitive. There should be more outrage from the media. There will be when it happens to their team.
 

tigermouseau

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The frees to Hipwood and whoever got that joke of a holding free against Gibcus in the last. 'Soft' doesn't cut it.

Yet every time we went forward Lynch and Dusty were held.

WWEFL.
Dusty even had his jumper pulled and according to the commentators “that is an easy decision for the u pores to make”. Yeah right