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ARC Appeal

Liam_Nissan

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Yeh, I still don't know if it was a goal or a point. I doubt anyone does. But one things for sure, it was NOT DEFINITIVELY a point.

Yep. The only thing that mattered was that the goal umpire thought it was a goal. In the absence of any conclusive evidence to the contrary the umpires decision stands.

But not on this occasion for some very strange reason.
 
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Brodders17

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Yeh, I still don't know if it was a goal or a point. I doubt anyone does. But one things for sure, it was NOT DEFINITIVELY a point.
The best evidence, both the goal umpires view, and the footage shot from behind Lynch (which shows the ball go through the goals, then behind the post) suggest it was a goal. I'm about 99% sure it went through the big sticks.
 
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WildStyle

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"Tom Lynch gave it away." How many times does it have to be explained that he lost the ball in the lights? You can even read his lips saying he couldn't see.
 
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Nico

You psychopathological reactionary!
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There is no doubt the AFL machine is pulling strings to control the messaging -

Jon Ralph - the goal umpire had no idea
Watson/Dunstall others - the Lynch reaction gave it away
Edmund on cruchtime and Lyon on SEN/OTC - right decision, wrong method
McLachlan - From where I was sitting it was a point

Whateley rails against the ARC - and thats it. No follow up. No demand that the AFL has a responsibility as custodians of the game to provide accountability and transparency. No request for the footage. No request for an explanation.

They know 90% of the football supporting world does NGAF. And in fact are happy to see the tigers out.
In China, the 50 Cent Army, or wumao are internet commentators hired by the CCP who create comments or articles on popular Chinese social media networks that are intended to derail discussions which are critical of the CCP, promoting narratives that serve the government's interests and insulting or spreading misinformation about political opponents of the Chinese government, both domestic and abroad.

Sounds familiar?
 
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Eddie from Elwood

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The best evidence, both the goal umpires view, and the footage shot from behind Lynch (which shows the ball go through the goals, then behind the post) suggest it was a goal. I'm about 99% sure it went through the big sticks.
Where is the footage from behind Lynch......I'd love to see it.
 
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Harry

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A week and a half later the feeling of being fARCked over hasn't gone away.
 
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DavidSSS

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Just saw a Fox headline: "The AFL is weighing up scrapping a key part of the score review system to avoid a repeat of the Tom Lynch situation", being the on-field call.

What is the 'Tom Lynch situation" exactly? They mean a repeat of a situation where following the rules means their preferred side loses?

By any standards of logic and reasonable analysis this just doesn't make sense. If they truly want to improve the process, invest in a camera system that will do the job, so it does what it is supposed to do, this is just spreading more *smile* on a *smile* sandwich.

Seriously if they go to the ARC without any reference point the system will be a *smile* show.

Surely not.

So, the f*ck up was by the ARC, the goal umpire most likely made the right call and they want to abolish the goal ump?

You can't make this up, Monty Python would have trouble doing a parody of this.

The one part of the decision making process which is most likely to have got the decision correct is the one part of the decision making process they want to remove.

What a farce.

Wait until it happens to someone else.

DS
 
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CarnTheTiges

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"Tom Lynch gave it away." How many times does it have to be explained that he lost the ball in the lights? You can even read his lips saying he couldn't see.
Even if wasn’t the lights, are we going to go on player reaction now? That’ll save the AFL a fortune. No need for goal umpires or expensive technology, just look at the player. If he jumps up and down in celebration then it’s clearly a goal and should be awarded as such, if he looks disappointed then it must have been a point.
I remember Peter Foster of the Dogs years ago. Had a shot at goal, was clearly a point, but the goal umpire had a brain fade and called it a goal. Foster knew it was a point, he’d turned away and was going back to his position when a team mate alerted him to what had happened. He ran over and shook the goal umpire’s hand. If we went on the player reaction method that never would have happened.
 
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BillyJean17

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Jul 27, 2009
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Yep. The only thing that mattered was that the goal umpire thought it was a goal. In the absence of any conclusive evidence to the contrary the umpires decision stands.

But not on this occasion for some very strange reason.
And he was only standing at the base of the said goal post , like what would he know
 
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Mycotchinrules

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Yep. The only thing that mattered was that the goal umpire thought it was a goal. In the absence of any conclusive evidence to the contrary the umpires decision stands.

But not on this occasion for some very strange reason.
Nailed it guy from Taken,

If the goal umpire said "I believe it's a point" then this thread doesn't exist. We lose, and we move on.

But he didn't.

We got shafted.

And the subterfuge and lies and smokescreens and tours of arc and pathetic sycophant media agenda only add fuel to the fire. AFL hate Richmond.
 
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Liam_Nissan

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Aug 1, 2020
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Nailed it guy from Taken,

If the goal umpire said "I believe it's a point" then this thread doesn't exist. We lose, and we move on.

But he didn't.

We got shafted.

And the subterfuge and lies and smokescreens and tours of arc and pathetic sycophant media agenda only add fuel to the fire. AFL hate Richmond.

Suggest reading my posts with a northern Irish accent that’s been Americanised. That’s how I type them out
 
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Third Ring

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One on of the other forums, someone mentioned a show on Netflix - Untold (about NBA insider trading by refs, among other things).

I gave it a watch and a few things sounded familiar to me (I am not a tin-foil head but,,,:
- referees not liking particular teams, players or coaches because of previous run ins so blatantly penalising them,
- referees being told to enforce rules against some players but not others (Not Jordan, Shaq…the money makers),
- referees feeding off their power and putting players in their place, just because they can.
hmmmm

The AFL models itself on other professional leagues….probably also on the bad stuff.
 
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gold1

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Feb 24, 2008
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One on of the other forums, someone mentioned a show on Netflix - Untold (about NBA insider trading by refs, among other things).

I gave it a watch and a few things sounded familiar to me (I am not a tin-foil head but,,,:
- referees not liking particular teams, players or coaches because of previous run ins so blatantly penalising them,
- referees being told to enforce rules against some players but not others (Not Jordan, Shaq…the money makers),
- referees feeding off their power and putting players in their place, just because they can.
hmmmm

The AFL models itself on other professional leagues….probably also on the bad stuff.
Think these conspiresy theories have run their course.Maybe Lynch had skin in the miss??????????????????
 

MD Jazz

Don't understand football? Talk to the hand.
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Ha Ha, mince gets another caller on questioning the goal umpires position. Mince repeats the Ralph line that the goal umpire had no idea and says how could he be in position and how could he possibly have predicted how high the kick would actually go. Re-iterated they are looking at removing the soft call. Again pushing the line about how impossible it was for that goal umpire to get the call correct!

AFL behind the scenes influence much?

He conveniently forgets that the ball did not go over the post, that the umpire said as much and was asking what side of the goal post it went. The umpire was more correct than anyone. The ARC did not look at it enough to identify that simple fact.

And the upshot of this incident is the AFL are considering the ARC to takeover decision making!!!!
 
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MD Jazz

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Mince is ultimately condoning the whole episode, in particular the AFL response, how can you possibly be a fan of such a fraudulent journalist?
 
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tigermouseau

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Is this their way of saying they thought the footage was more accurate than what the goal umpire saw? Because that's a complete joke. That means they have no idea how to read camera angles and make judgments on where the ball is properly.
I’d love to talk to the goal umpire now….would be a very interesting incite. But alas, he has been nobbled.
 
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tigermouseau

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They’re considering it, because they’d rather do that than admit they made a mistake. The quicker the place is shaken up, the better. Hopefully they appoint someone with integrity and balls and they run a broom through everything.
Reminds me of my 5 yo grandson….he’s always right too.
 

French Tiger

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Oct 6, 2004
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It's just another instance of the AFL moving the goal posts for when it suits them.
 
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