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Adem Yze
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He is very switched on bloke. Very meticulous in what he does.
Interesting to hear he has brought Livingstone in the coaches box of analyse how Yze and the assistants perform on match day.
Says to me Yze is not afraid of constructive criticism.
Interesting to hear he has brought Livingstone in the coaches box of analyse how Yze and the assistants perform on match day.
Says to me Yze is not afraid of constructive criticism.
I noticed he sat next to Gibbo in the rooms after the game for a chat. Love to know what was said but good to hear Gibbo's thinking positive and planned for 2025.
What I like about him his not afraid to make moves , we have been to inactive last 2 seasons when things go wrong.
Very smart footy brain well known in the industry tactically astute reads the game before anyone picks up on it. I reckon Rutten and Teague are learning alot to. Good work by Zieball to on Friday works with clearances and stoppages.
Very smart footy brain well known in the industry tactically astute reads the game before anyone picks up on it. I reckon Rutten and Teague are learning alot to. Good work by Zieball to on Friday works with clearances and stoppages.
We won’t know what kind of coach Yze is tactically for a few months yet.
There are three types of coaches in the AFL system - offensive, defensive and adaptive.
These modes may change from campaign to campaign but coaches tend to develop a system and stick to it.
A few examples. Contrary to popular belief, Hardwick is a defensive coach and has always remained so. Even in the golden era he would smash defensive drills and let the players have their heads offensively. The defensive part was absolutely non-negotiable and was why we tended to strangle teams rather than blow them to the shizen (which would often happen late in games but wasn’t our biggest weapon).
There have been several well known defensive coaches in the modern era - Lyon, Malthouse, Worsfold, Longmire, Longmuir and Goodwin to name a few.
Offensive coaching has been the realm of Blight, Beveridge, Neesham, McRae, Hinkley, Kingsley and Fagan. Plenty more have come and gone in the blink of an eye. One could argue the offensive coach, as much as it is in vogue right now, has done it a lot tougher over the journey. Finals are, after all, all about the arm wrestle.
The third basic type of AFL coach is adaptive. These are rarer beasts, but Richmond has not been a stranger to them - Terry Wallace was almost certainly one of these.
Adaptive coaches refuse to bed down a minutely prescribed system for the players week in week out. Where Hardwick will have his players under no illusions as to what his defensive accountabilities are every single minute of every single game, the adaptive coach imbues his players with a certain level of trust. Trust that if you are good enough to enter the AFL system then you will be smart enough to take on different roles from week to week.
Adaptive coaching is about removing the opposition’s strengths to such an extent that they are effectively lame ducks.
Adaptive coaching is about exploiting the rigid systems of opposing teams who cannot respond quickly or flexibly to your tactics.
One of the key advantages of adaptive coaching is that oppo teams have no idea what you are going to bring on any given day. Often they will have no choice but to roll out their own plans but will then be at a tactical disadvantage due to the sheer agility of the adaptive coach’s structures.
Of course, a major challenge to adaptive coaching is the potential lack of consistency from week to week. Some players, particularly inexperienced players, prefer to have a set tactical routine and be clear of mind when they cross the white line. Players that aren’t proactive tend not to thrive in the adaptive system.
On the admittedly scant evidence thus far in 2024, I wonder if Yze is that rare breed of coach who feels skilled enough to play chess with the opposition. I wonder if Yze is an adaptive coach. Against Carlton we were forced into several positional moves that almost - incredibly - saw us over the line. But if we were a few goals down without the injuries I suspect the changes would’ve come anyway. The change after half time against GC was even more stark.
So if we are to accept the reasonable logic that some coaches prefer to bed down campaign-long systems of play and other coaches look to exploit that predictability, let us then consider that Yze might just be a wunderkind that likes to take toys away from the opposition.
I’m looking forward to seeing more of this unfold.
Just on a closing note, I am increasingly suspicious that Chris Scott, a personality I detest, might actually be one of the best adaptive coaches in the league. Didn’t work against the Richmond Chaos, but one cannot deny Geelong’s mitigating ability in recent years.
There are three types of coaches in the AFL system - offensive, defensive and adaptive.
These modes may change from campaign to campaign but coaches tend to develop a system and stick to it.
A few examples. Contrary to popular belief, Hardwick is a defensive coach and has always remained so. Even in the golden era he would smash defensive drills and let the players have their heads offensively. The defensive part was absolutely non-negotiable and was why we tended to strangle teams rather than blow them to the shizen (which would often happen late in games but wasn’t our biggest weapon).
There have been several well known defensive coaches in the modern era - Lyon, Malthouse, Worsfold, Longmire, Longmuir and Goodwin to name a few.
Offensive coaching has been the realm of Blight, Beveridge, Neesham, McRae, Hinkley, Kingsley and Fagan. Plenty more have come and gone in the blink of an eye. One could argue the offensive coach, as much as it is in vogue right now, has done it a lot tougher over the journey. Finals are, after all, all about the arm wrestle.
The third basic type of AFL coach is adaptive. These are rarer beasts, but Richmond has not been a stranger to them - Terry Wallace was almost certainly one of these.
Adaptive coaches refuse to bed down a minutely prescribed system for the players week in week out. Where Hardwick will have his players under no illusions as to what his defensive accountabilities are every single minute of every single game, the adaptive coach imbues his players with a certain level of trust. Trust that if you are good enough to enter the AFL system then you will be smart enough to take on different roles from week to week.
Adaptive coaching is about removing the opposition’s strengths to such an extent that they are effectively lame ducks.
Adaptive coaching is about exploiting the rigid systems of opposing teams who cannot respond quickly or flexibly to your tactics.
One of the key advantages of adaptive coaching is that oppo teams have no idea what you are going to bring on any given day. Often they will have no choice but to roll out their own plans but will then be at a tactical disadvantage due to the sheer agility of the adaptive coach’s structures.
Of course, a major challenge to adaptive coaching is the potential lack of consistency from week to week. Some players, particularly inexperienced players, prefer to have a set tactical routine and be clear of mind when they cross the white line. Players that aren’t proactive tend not to thrive in the adaptive system.
On the admittedly scant evidence thus far in 2024, I wonder if Yze is that rare breed of coach who feels skilled enough to play chess with the opposition. I wonder if Yze is an adaptive coach. Against Carlton we were forced into several positional moves that almost - incredibly - saw us over the line. But if we were a few goals down without the injuries I suspect the changes would’ve come anyway. The change after half time against GC was even more stark.
So if we are to accept the reasonable logic that some coaches prefer to bed down campaign-long systems of play and other coaches look to exploit that predictability, let us then consider that Yze might just be a wunderkind that likes to take toys away from the opposition.
I’m looking forward to seeing more of this unfold.
Just on a closing note, I am increasingly suspicious that Chris Scott, a personality I detest, might actually be one of the best adaptive coaches in the league. Didn’t work against the Richmond Chaos, but one cannot deny Geelong’s mitigating ability in recent years.
good post.
I saw a bit of adaptive from Steve morris yesterday. I couldn't articulate it, but now I can.
might be a glimpse of Yze?
Yeah absolutely, with the constantly changing personnel in the VFL system (three ruckmen one week, zero the next) I’d argue it’s tailor made for adaptive coaching
But yes, Yze’s system from top down
He needs to reinvent the side.
Push Rioli into the middle.
Play Kosi, you brought him over play him.
Start getting rid of the ones letting us down
Push Rioli into the middle.
Play Kosi, you brought him over play him.
Start getting rid of the ones letting us down
I didn't want McQuack Quack but at least he had us winning games.
What's Yze's style?
Chip the ball, we can't hit targets
What's Yze's style?
Chip the ball, we can't hit targets
I think Yze is also figuring out what he has at his disposal, and it’s probably frightening the hell out of him with bare the cupboard is
This year is Yze’s discovery year.
Primary focus should be on weeding out the list cloggers, of which we have many.
This could take many games (losses) but that’s fine by me, as long as he arrives at the right conclusions.
Part of the benefit of a new coach from outside the club is fresh eyes on the playing group and the willingness to make decisions on who is going to be part of his next challenging team.
So play Dow, play Banks, play Brown, play Ross, even play Hugo if you need another look - play all the borderline players, and then make some strong calls.
Very hard to build a style with players that don’t have the confidence in their foot skills to hit a 20m target.
This was always going to be a year for Yze to find out what he had to work with. Not just on the field, but off it, too. The players won’t be the only ones seeking opportunities elsewhere come end of season.
3 games in to his tenure, and I reckon we have a great coach here.
Can’t say I have ever been as confident about a coach at RFC as I am about Yze.
Can’t say I have ever been as confident about a coach at RFC as I am about Yze.
I think he should be ok. He’s learning exactly what he’s got underneath him. Which isn’t much.
Having said that, he’s got a couple of things to improve upon himself.
The first one is team selection. He keeps playing guys that shouldn’t be in the team eg Dow and Banks.
The second one is defensively. I knew this would happen but it’s going to be worse than I thought. We can’t (won’t ?) tackle, and if we do, they don’t stick.
Marshall and Dixon took 10 uncontested marks between them yesterday and kicked 6.5. Lucky they were inaccurate. Simple lead up marks a la Ugle-Hagen. They hardly take a contested mark those two, so all we needed to do was make sure we had someone in the channel between ball and them. But we didn’t. One easy, lead up mark after another yesterday in open space.
He’s got some work to do on a defensive front.
Having said that, he’s got a couple of things to improve upon himself.
The first one is team selection. He keeps playing guys that shouldn’t be in the team eg Dow and Banks.
The second one is defensively. I knew this would happen but it’s going to be worse than I thought. We can’t (won’t ?) tackle, and if we do, they don’t stick.
Marshall and Dixon took 10 uncontested marks between them yesterday and kicked 6.5. Lucky they were inaccurate. Simple lead up marks a la Ugle-Hagen. They hardly take a contested mark those two, so all we needed to do was make sure we had someone in the channel between ball and them. But we didn’t. One easy, lead up mark after another yesterday in open space.
He’s got some work to do on a defensive front.
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He would have already known what he has the day before he started
3 games into his tenure , I reckon we have a coach that is confused
Why ?
Inside F50 entry is a complete and utter mess
They train for 3 months inn the emphasis of quick transition inside F50 and what I watched yesterday was not 1 “ hit up forward “ leading up the ground to the ball carrier , really ?
I also thought the “ high ball in “ kicking on their heads was a thing of the past
Obviously I was wrong
What ever happened to taking the oppositions interceptor out of the contest ?
Obviously after 3 rounds that’s out the window
Wasn’t a good watch yesterday from a structural point of view
There was a lot of “ Round 1 “ about Round 3 yesterday
As for Banks and Dow
Might as well play 2 short next week
But suggest play McAuliffe and Sonsie . Least both we have a crack instead of jumping out of the way of their opponents
I’m also a fan of Yze. But i wonder if he over estimated the list, throughout the interview process, and during pre season, he made mention that he expected a spike in performance, and wasnt putting a ceiling on what was possible. Didnt he realise what type of list we had? It was obvious to all of us that we needed a full rebuild.
Id be concerned if he didnt know or think the same.
Also, The game plan is identical to what we had previously under dimma and mcqualter, which i find odd, as he made reference to "live in the past, die in the present"
I was expecting something slightly different.
Id be concerned if he didnt know or think the same.
Also, The game plan is identical to what we had previously under dimma and mcqualter, which i find odd, as he made reference to "live in the past, die in the present"
I was expecting something slightly different.
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