Bachar Houli

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Bacher should be remembered for all his really great games he has played in te yellow and black but instead his monumental clangers will overshadow them
I always remember him for the day he played a mighty game in the Grand Final and helped us win a premiership and that live at the ground I expected him to win the Norm Smith Medal.

Nothing will ever overshadow that.
 
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MB78

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Speaking of his GF. His teammates all appreciated him the next day, when he went to the channel 7 studio and did the media commitments on the Sunday morning.
 
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DavidSSS

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I always remember him for the day he played a mighty game in the Grand Final and helped us win a premiership and that live at the ground I expected him to win the Norm Smith Medal.

Nothing will ever overshadow that.
What was critical in the GF was that Houli was brilliant in the first half when the game was in the balance. I thought it was hard to pick between Houli and Dusty, either was a deserving winner.

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Bill James

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I always remember him for the day he played a mighty game in the Grand Final and helped us win a premiership and that live at the ground I expected him to win the Norm Smith Medal.

Nothing will ever overshadow that.
I’ll always remember the day you accused Kmacs critics of not watching the game live at the ground and betting the coaches understood his impact on the game.......the week before they dropped him.

Nothing will ever remove your ‘live at the ground’ appraisals from that shadow. :)
 
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TigerMasochist

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Nice spread about Bash in the Hun today. Little bit of feel good for a man who's doing plenty of quality work in the community.

Interesting little comments about his footy never being the prime driver in his life n keeping balanced perspective when the haters come, whereas some are struggling to cope with footy being their sole focus.
 

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I always remember him for the day he played a mighty game in the Grand Final and helped us win a premiership and that live at the ground I expected him to win the Norm Smith Medal.

Nothing will ever overshadow that.
Fair comment, Bachar has had some truly great performances in Y & B. My comment was unfairly based on that absolute blue when he coughed up an unforced goal in front of the posts
 
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Bill James

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Just want to put it out there as someone people class as a Houli hater. He was very solid again today. More handballs than kicks but only one turnover and team high DE%. Made some tackles and had some score involvements. Would have had him in the top 5 today, but I was only watching on TV.
 

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Just want to put it out there as someone people class as a Houli hater. He was very solid again today. More handballs than kicks but only one turnover and team high DE%. Made some tackles and had some score involvements. Would have had him in the top 5 today, but I was only watching on TV.
Bachar did good today.
 

Bullarto Tiger

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I always remember him for the day he played a mighty game in the Grand Final and helped us win a premiership and that live at the ground I expected him to win the Norm Smith Medal.

Nothing will ever overshadow that.
I have written similarly, Big Richo. The GF 2017 was an awesome display from Bachar. Will never forget it and he was instrumental in laying the foundations to that supreme premiership victory.
I will always hail Bachar for that performance.
 
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The Big Richo

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I’ll always remember the day you accused Kmacs critics of not watching the game live at the ground and betting the coaches understood his impact on the game.......the week before they dropped him.

Nothing will ever remove your ‘live at the ground’ appraisals from that shadow. :)
I didn't accuse, I just wondered if the hard running he does was being taken into account, which is impossible to see on TV. ;)

Two points on his dropping, the first is let's see how long he is out for, I still think today was a team balance issue.

The second point is you assume the coaches know better than I do. My contention is if I were our senior coach we'd have 3 flags since 1980 now. :p
 

The Big Richo

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I have written similarly, Big Richo. The GF 2017 was an awesome display from Bachar. Will never forget it and he was instrumental in laying the foundations to that supreme premiership victory.
I will always hail Bachar for that performance.
Yep, I was a critic at times before that, his uncomfortableness with the physical aspects of the game never sat well with me but that game alone made him a Tiger great in my eyes.
 

achillesjones

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Richmond royalty. 200 games.Premiership star. Model citizen. Very highly regarded by those 'within the four walls'. Approaching the twilight of his career.

Please don't label him as "soft" or "picking when he goes". That is ignorant of the courage shown by players who are under pressure to gut run and make position for the sake of the team. The number of knocks AFL players absorb at high speed is incredible and they play injured nearly every week. That is courage.

I would invite his harshest critics on here to objectively watch a whole game focusing on the role he plays in the team.
 
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Richmond royalty. 200 games.Premiership star. Model citizen. Very highly regarded by those 'within the four walls'. Approaching the twilight of his career.

Please don't label him as "soft" or "picking when he goes". That is ignorant of the courage shown by players who are under pressure to gut run and make position for the sake of the team. The number of knocks AFL players absorb at high speed is incredible and they play injured nearly every week. That is courage.

I would invite his harshest critics on here to objectively watch a whole game focusing on the role he plays in the team.
Don’t mention the word ‘royalty’
You’ll bring out the haters
 

caesar

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Don’t mention the word ‘royalty’
You’ll bring out the haters
I could say the same in the BEllis thread but both Brandon and Bachar can rightly say haters can hate but the fact is they are having bloody good seasons, got to be quite embarrassing for the PRE haters that will never admit it .
 
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Tiger68

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I am sure I would be classified as a Houli hater, were in fact I hate the way he has been allowed to play and I like the person.

Yesterday Houli played his best game for the season and I feel sure some of the things that I 'hate' in his game have been addressed by the coaching staff.

To be specific:

I hate the way he holds play up and then bombs long to a contest. I hate the way he plays on out of the goal square bounces immediately after he steps out of the square to get a stat, thereby taking his eye off the ball and then bombs to contest often resulting in the ball coming back. I hate that he does not run his full measure and then decide to bounce only when necessary. I hate the way he fumbles when there is any semblance of frontal pressure. He is capable of backing into a pack to take a mark but he picks and chooses when to do so. I hate that people rate his game on statistics and not impact on the game.These are things in his game that I hate, I am not a Houli hater.

Yesterday, it was clear that his strategy out of the kickouts was different - ie a priority to find a target. He has been spoken to, no doubt. Excellent!!! Furthermore, he got zero stats for kickouts yesterday - also an excellent sign of change in his game. (In Dreamtime Houli had 12 stats from kickouts and this does not include his unnesarry bounces. This would been fine but the results from his kickoputs were poor).

Yesterday Houli was a very good player and he valued where his possessions went and looked to hit targets rather than bomb away for the metres gained statistics. He still needs to address his unnecessary bounces, but whilst the club lauds him for run and carry on the back of bounce numbers then that won't be changing.

Yesterday Houli was down on his usual disposal number but up in my rating of his game. Keep putting the team first and maybe the 'haters' won't hate.
 
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