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Dylan Grimes JDM
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Just going through some of the pre-2K Richmond footballers that should have made it but didn't.
Remember Colin Waterson?
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/C/Colin_Waterson.html
Amazing stats!
And 1981 was a wet season, not assisting CHFs.
Colin should have been a Richmond CHF through the 1980s.
Unfortunately, he was around during Jess, Cloke & Roach's time, and was let go by Graeme Richmond.
Waterson went to WA in 1981 at 22yo, where he was a leading WAFL player for many years.
I remember talking to Graeme Bond, then Tiger Football Manager, in 1985 that Waterson should be brought back to Richmond. Bond agreed but nothing happened.
Maybe the RFC was broke and couldn't get him over.
Maybe Waterson didn't want to come.
Maybe Bond just agreed but did nothing, which wasn't unusual for him.
Anyway!
Remember Colin Waterson?
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/C/Colin_Waterson.html
Amazing stats!
And 1981 was a wet season, not assisting CHFs.
Colin should have been a Richmond CHF through the 1980s.
Unfortunately, he was around during Jess, Cloke & Roach's time, and was let go by Graeme Richmond.
Waterson went to WA in 1981 at 22yo, where he was a leading WAFL player for many years.
I remember talking to Graeme Bond, then Tiger Football Manager, in 1985 that Waterson should be brought back to Richmond. Bond agreed but nothing happened.
Maybe the RFC was broke and couldn't get him over.
Maybe Waterson didn't want to come.
Maybe Bond just agreed but did nothing, which wasn't unusual for him.
Anyway!
Here's a 2010 article on Colin Waterson.
http://www.footygoss.com/index.php/main/columns/memory/view/where_are_they_now_colin_waterson/
Posted Apr 15, 2010 - 6:29 AM
by Ron Head
East Fremantle Football Club is without peer as a cradle of top footballers. It’s homegrown stars have formed the nucleus of the twenty nine WAFL premierships the club has won, and since the inception of the AFL their input of draftees and star players has stamped their development of juniors as the benchmark of the country.
The club has had it’s fair share of star recruits over the years as well, and one of the best of them is now one of those behind the development of today’s talent pool in the East Fremantle area.
Colin Waterson kicked 276 goals for East Fremantle in the eighties, was one of the best on ground in their 1985 premiership win over Subiaco as a defender, a year in which he was runner up for the Lynn Medal, and enjoyed a fine 121 game career with the Sharks. His involvement with the East Fremantle Junior Council in more recent years has further justified the work of club stalwart and long time committeeman Harry Morgan in recruiting him from Richmond in 1983.
Waterson played his junior football at Nullawil, on the Calder Highway, three hundred kms north west of Melbourne. He was playing senior football at the age of fifteen, and soon came under the notice of Richmond Football Club, joining them in 1977. He debuted with the Tigers in 1978 as a forward, and played thirteen times over the following three seasons, kicking nine goals. Selected for the qualifying final in the Tigers premiership year of 1980, he was unable to make the victorious grand final side, as Richmond downed Collingwood with an at the time record winning margin.
When approached by East Fremantle after the 1982 season, Waterson decided to give it a try in the West. “I thought a change might be worthwhile,†he told Footygoss. After a slow start at Moss Street in 1983, Waterson showed his class the following year, with some scintilating displays. Mainly used as a key forward, he became a very flexible player, able to be highly effective in any key position or as a ruckman.
At six foot four and 95kg, Waterson was good in the air, and a penetrating and accurate kick. His bodywork in the packs coupled with his marking enabled him to become a focal point in the forward line and a dependable defender when in the back line.
The squad was perhaps the strongest in the club’s history. It simply glistened with talent, and some of those who served most of their time with the reserves were unlucky. In ordinary years they would have been regular League players
This was what East Fremantle historian Jack Lee said of the East Fremantle side of 1986. But the side of 86 didn’t win a flag. The side of 85 was no less talented, and they were dominant in that year, with Waterson an integral part. Waterson was one of the best on ground in East Fremantle’s premiership win over Subiaco, and was runner up for the Lynn Medal, the club’s fairest and best award. Colin also represented Western Australia that year, playing at centre half forward against South Australia, kicking three goals in a bad loss, and was named as one of WA’s best.
He underlined his versatility at the highest level by playing a total of four State games, with two at centre half forward (contributing a total of five goals)and two at full back.
A knee injury in the 1987 season affected Waterson’s football, and he eventually called it quits in 1989, at the age of thirty, although making a comeback two years later at South Suburban club, Canning.
Colin Waterson has put his time into juniors since his retirement, having been involved at the coaching level with the Bullcreek-Leeming Juniors for eight years. “We have had a lot of good players come through the ranks, and there are a lot more to come,†he said, enthusiastically.
He regards Subiaco and West Coast big man Laurie Keene as the toughest opponent he faced, and had no hesitation in naming Brian Peake as the best he played with.
These days Colin is busy in his occupation as a bank manager, and admits: “I don’t get to see East Fremantle play as much as I should,†but enjoys water sports and spending time at home with wife Peta, their daughter, and two sons, who both played with Bullcreek-Leeming.
Colin Waterson made the move to Western Australia,was a star at both ends of the ground, and became a favourite with supporters of the blue and white. His developmental work with juniors is the finishing touch to a quarter of a decade of contribution to the East Fremantle club and Western Australian football.
http://www.footygoss.com/index.php/main/columns/memory/view/where_are_they_now_colin_waterson/
Posted Apr 15, 2010 - 6:29 AM
by Ron Head
East Fremantle Football Club is without peer as a cradle of top footballers. It’s homegrown stars have formed the nucleus of the twenty nine WAFL premierships the club has won, and since the inception of the AFL their input of draftees and star players has stamped their development of juniors as the benchmark of the country.
The club has had it’s fair share of star recruits over the years as well, and one of the best of them is now one of those behind the development of today’s talent pool in the East Fremantle area.
Colin Waterson kicked 276 goals for East Fremantle in the eighties, was one of the best on ground in their 1985 premiership win over Subiaco as a defender, a year in which he was runner up for the Lynn Medal, and enjoyed a fine 121 game career with the Sharks. His involvement with the East Fremantle Junior Council in more recent years has further justified the work of club stalwart and long time committeeman Harry Morgan in recruiting him from Richmond in 1983.
Waterson played his junior football at Nullawil, on the Calder Highway, three hundred kms north west of Melbourne. He was playing senior football at the age of fifteen, and soon came under the notice of Richmond Football Club, joining them in 1977. He debuted with the Tigers in 1978 as a forward, and played thirteen times over the following three seasons, kicking nine goals. Selected for the qualifying final in the Tigers premiership year of 1980, he was unable to make the victorious grand final side, as Richmond downed Collingwood with an at the time record winning margin.
When approached by East Fremantle after the 1982 season, Waterson decided to give it a try in the West. “I thought a change might be worthwhile,†he told Footygoss. After a slow start at Moss Street in 1983, Waterson showed his class the following year, with some scintilating displays. Mainly used as a key forward, he became a very flexible player, able to be highly effective in any key position or as a ruckman.
At six foot four and 95kg, Waterson was good in the air, and a penetrating and accurate kick. His bodywork in the packs coupled with his marking enabled him to become a focal point in the forward line and a dependable defender when in the back line.
The squad was perhaps the strongest in the club’s history. It simply glistened with talent, and some of those who served most of their time with the reserves were unlucky. In ordinary years they would have been regular League players
This was what East Fremantle historian Jack Lee said of the East Fremantle side of 1986. But the side of 86 didn’t win a flag. The side of 85 was no less talented, and they were dominant in that year, with Waterson an integral part. Waterson was one of the best on ground in East Fremantle’s premiership win over Subiaco, and was runner up for the Lynn Medal, the club’s fairest and best award. Colin also represented Western Australia that year, playing at centre half forward against South Australia, kicking three goals in a bad loss, and was named as one of WA’s best.
He underlined his versatility at the highest level by playing a total of four State games, with two at centre half forward (contributing a total of five goals)and two at full back.
A knee injury in the 1987 season affected Waterson’s football, and he eventually called it quits in 1989, at the age of thirty, although making a comeback two years later at South Suburban club, Canning.
Colin Waterson has put his time into juniors since his retirement, having been involved at the coaching level with the Bullcreek-Leeming Juniors for eight years. “We have had a lot of good players come through the ranks, and there are a lot more to come,†he said, enthusiastically.
He regards Subiaco and West Coast big man Laurie Keene as the toughest opponent he faced, and had no hesitation in naming Brian Peake as the best he played with.
These days Colin is busy in his occupation as a bank manager, and admits: “I don’t get to see East Fremantle play as much as I should,†but enjoys water sports and spending time at home with wife Peta, their daughter, and two sons, who both played with Bullcreek-Leeming.
Colin Waterson made the move to Western Australia,was a star at both ends of the ground, and became a favourite with supporters of the blue and white. His developmental work with juniors is the finishing touch to a quarter of a decade of contribution to the East Fremantle club and Western Australian football.
Phantom said:
Wouldn't have been through lack of money Phantom. We were still paying overs for guys like Andrew Cross, Peter McCormack, Michael Roberts, Jeff Dunne and of course Terry Wallace until 1987, when the years of profligate spending on duds who cost a bomb but gave very little finally bit us on the arse.
The type of candidate that in the current climate would have been given a 2nd chance at AFL level but up until recently there was almost a train of thought that if a player didn't succeed at his first chance they rarely got another ( of course there was always an exception to that rule)Phantom said:
tigertim said:
The best example of a 2nd chance at Richmond would have to be Wayne Walsh.
Wayne started as a junior wingman / hbf in 1960s, debuting in 1968 as a 21yo, being traded to South at the end of that season.
He played, I think 4 years at South, before being recruited back at the end of 1972.
Walsh then played the 1973 & '74 premierships, the '75 Prelin, and eventually retired from VFL in 1978 to allow Raines to play as the full time centre.
The only other three that I remember returning for a 2nd go were:
Bruce Tschirpig
Graham Gaunt, and
Ray Boyanich
Note: this doesn't include the likes of Michael Green and Barry Richardson, who didn't change clubs, and merely wanted to rest for a season or two.
Although, I do remember, now, David Cloke moving to Collingwood for 1983, then returning a few seasons later.
Phantom said:
Daryl Vernon went from Richmond to Sydney and then back to Richmond. Neil Peart went from Collingwood to Richmond to Footscray and then back to Richmond. Trent Nicholls of more recent times started and finished at Richmond after stints at West Coast and North.
I can't recall Graham Gaunt coming back after he left Melbourne though.
Phantom said:
Obviously they have confused Ron with his brother Richard.
Claremont have had more players drafted to the AFL and have easily eclipsed East Freo in terms of high end talent produced for both VFL and AFL level.
Not sure if he fits the criteria for this part of the thread, but Trent Nicholls was another who started with us, went elsewhere (though probably not by choice) and then came back to us.
Phantom said:
Didn't realise the Tiger connection there Phanto.
But I do know that Waterson kicked 22 goals in a reserve game for East Freo on the comeback trail from injury. It was in a derby against South Freo.
And I know the fullback who played the whole of that game on him.
Needless to say my mate has never heard the end of it.
Michael Lockman spent time at West Perth and South Adelaide in between senior games at Richmond in the 80's.
Graeme Robertson had a year at West Adelaide between Richmond stints.
Craig Smith returned to Lalbert after a year in the under 19's (as a 16yo), before coming back to Punt Rd.
Graeme Robertson had a year at West Adelaide between Richmond stints.
Craig Smith returned to Lalbert after a year in the under 19's (as a 16yo), before coming back to Punt Rd.
