- Mar 2, 2003
I'd like to see the stats on turnovers and intercepts and a heat map of where they are occurring on the ground compared to previous years.
Perfectly summarised. Unintended consequences..... was the term used. I'd argue, total and utter incompetence.Looking at those heat maps it is clear both teams are playing closer to the goals. What that tells me is that defence has moved closer to opposition goals and that will mean more congestion because the closer to goal you are the narrower the ground.
We used to be great at defending the kick out of our half forward, but if the opposition can get a mark or free they can now switch easier. What this means is that all teams have to defend closer to goal where everything is more congested.
No wonder scoring is down.
The explanation didn't just blame the stand rule. A combination of the stand and the 30 metre run out of the goal square meant that the ball came out further from full back. You could choose to defend or fold back. Defending left you exposed out the back. So most sides just fold back. Definitely the 4 or 5 he showed video of all did, I think he said 11 of the 18 sides just fold back, it was definitely over 10. Also if a side successfully chips via "8 metre" (actual quote) kicks to just the defensive side of the wing then basically all sides fold back. Even we do. He doesn't want us to foldback but there is no option.The part I can't follow though is how the stand rule causes that?
Ultimately the player with the ball in defence has more options/less pressure when the man on the mark cannot move.Possibly the ability to more easily go at 45degrees means finding space is now easier in the wider parts of the ground. This forces congestion to the narrow parts near the goals.
Week 1 has this year’s finals series on track to be the lowest-scoring since 1964, and possibly before. Third- and fourth-highest scoring teams eliminated.The Stand Rule still gives me the irrits, it's embarrassing and hasn't resulted in higher scores, in fact the opposite has happened.
The stand rule was aimed at opening up play to reduce congestion around the ground and increase ball movement and scoring. What it's done is moved the congestion into the defensive 50s and choked goal scoring even more. Some of us actually called this at the beginning of the season
The flood is back, next thing they bring it they must have a min of 4 players in your forward 50 at all times.
You could hear it from Hardwick in every press conference this year, we could not get any easy goals because our forward line was packed with every single entry.
good post far canal. It's laughable how the AFL and the sycophant media had weekly "state of the game" discussions when we were playing a high tempo attacking exciting brand of football, yet are deadly silent now when it's in a much worse state and scoring keeps dropping.The pure insanity of this whole situaton is that this rule attacks the Richmond style, the very style that was killing off the flood.
We as suporters should be hammering talk back about the fact this rule has destroyed the system that was giving us back higher scoring attacking football, while still giving the adrenalin rush of watching your team gang tackle an opposition into submission.
The solution for opposition teams was simple. Adapt or die, beat us at our own game. Unfortunately clueless coaches didn't adapt.
Chris Scott used the same failing tactic to try to control ball movement and was wiped off the park in 2017, 2019 and 2020
Nathan Buckley, John Longmire and others simply employed the flood. Buckley was lucky to get away with a draw, but this style against a forward half pressure side simply means the ball lives in the oppositions forward line.
We defend hard but we attack hard. The answer was simple. Adapt and take us on or die.
But then along came Steve Hocking!
And if you're not sur eabout the 'agenda', ask yourself how extending the kick out helps scoring? It's a rule that allows the opposition to move the ball easily away from he scoring zone into the middle of the ground, way way away from the scoring zone. Not sure how that helps scoring!
The media has to be brough to task on whats going on, and stop being the political mouth piece of the AFL boys club. THat will only happen with robust debate in the public forum from supporters. After all, it's our money that holds the game up.