Only Danny's Fault? I don't think so.

[antigravity]

The majority of Richmond supporters are being way to short sighted when trying to figure out why we're performing so badly.

I'm not defending Frawley in anyway, and although i've been a strong supporter of him being coach, I think he's had sufficient time to prove to Richmond and it's supporters that he's up to scratch, when in fact he's done the exact opposite.

But for christ sake, Danny doesn't coach this team all by himself. He doesn't independently choose who's to be selected, dropped, where to play them and what game plan to adopt.

There is no point sacking Frawley, if you don't sack the rest of them. Otherwise it'll be same old, same old with however chooses to commit coaching career suicide next. Get rid of Hutchison and Crocker. I'm not sure if Weadon is still there, but if he is, get rid of him too. Sack anyone who has been here for more than 3 years and hasn't improved the club in their area of "expertise". This includes anyone in the fitness or recruiting departments.

I'm not as harsh on Beck as the rest of you, however in this business, being average and adequate doesn't, and shouldn't be enough to keep your job.

Although we must place emphasis on hiring hard working, determined people who have had succesful footballing careers, we musn't limit ourselves to the big league. Look to the interstate football leagues, look at the VFL.. Hire people who have proven records of success in the area's in which they work.

Danny and the rest of the boys time is up. I'm sure we all weren't expecting the club to be Premiership contenders within three years of Frawley and the rest being at the club, but with an improved list you'd expect that at least the club would be more than just mediocre.

Time to go.

 

[MC24]

… Danny doesn't coach this team all by himself.

I've said as much in the past antigravity and if one were to go it should be all of them.

Why have we found ourselves in a similar position to that of last season?

Because, we didn't learn from 2002. If we don't have the people who can bring awareness to those around them, of what they need to change or do differently, then they are just not doing their job.

Isn't that what coaching is all about; i.e. making people aware of what they are doing and helping them to improve?

If it is, then that does not seem to be happening at our Club.

 

[Rampaging_Richo]

AG,

The list is disgraceful
Coaching is poor
Recruiting has been poor

We have probs on most levels, with Danny being just one of them.

IMO, we need all areas sorted out before we can truely move forward and improve.

 

[PuntRoadRoar]

here here RR

the list is crud
the coach has had 4 years to change that and failed!
and the recruiting lacks brains.

time to clean out the whole club.

 

[Harry]

A new coach would show frawdudlys circus team the door. A new coach will put in place people he wants and trusts. If Mr Potatohead goes then they will all line up at centrlink.

 

[Rampaging_Richo]

Coaching assistants only peddle the senior coaches message, they don't make it themselves.

But if a new coach came in, it would be likely that some or all of the assistants would walk, unless contracts where still valid and made it financially unviable to do so.

I think our assistants are of a pretty good calibre, and may be seen as a good bunch given the right guidance from a decent senior coach.

 

[antigravity]

Coaching assistants only peddle the senior coaches message, they don't make it themselves.

Maybe back in the olden days, but today it's totally different. Assistant coaches not only are usually responsible and specialise in a certain area of the team and the teams game plan (whether that be midfield, forward or defensive structure and tactics) but they also offer suggestions to the head coach regarding positional changes, player assessment and they are also apart of the pathetic selection committee.

If Danny goes, it won't be without these guys pushing him on his own sword. Assistant coaches are too often overlooked when a team's performing badly. They are as responsible for a football teams success or downfall as the senior coach, only difference is, the senior coach takes the brunt of all the media and fan pressure or praise depending on how the team is doing.

Dave

 

[gustiger12]

that is another reason that when it is time to appoint a new coach that we opt for an experienced coach to can bring his own assistant panel to ensure he has quality support.

it would be very hard for another unknown to enlist quality support in their early years.

And lets face it when ever the decision is made to appoint a new coach, that person, who ever it maybe will need all the help they can get.

the other thing is that an experienced coach will be less likely to be pressured into making rash decision based on self preservation instincts

 

[zacs56]

… Danny doesn't coach this team all by himself.

I've said as much in the past antigravity and if one were to go it should be all of them.

Why have we found ourselves in a similar position to that of last season?

Because, we didn't learn from 2002. If we don't have the people who can bring awareness to those around them, of what they need to change or do differently, then they are just not doing their job.

Isn't that what coaching is all about; i.e. making people aware of what they are doing and helping them to improve?

If it is, then that does not seem to be happening at our Club.

I think we should take a leaf out of channel nine eddie Mcsquire book,and take note at what he did with hollywoods, he fixed it. And then blame ourselves for letting it get this far,so it's our fault too.For years we ALL have sat back and whinged about the draft picks,coaches, hacks and duds we have on the list,but only once have we ever banded together to voice our opinion,and that was save our skins campaign.So if we all get in touch with the club by email, letters, in voice or a group constantly ,or continually telling them to clean out the hacks,no more one year dud fix ups,and give some of the kids a run,or sit back like we have with our heads in the sand and whinge,and still get no changes.It's our responsibility to our membership dollar to make sure changes do take place.For all paid up members own this club and have got a voice.

 

[MC24]

… blame ourselves for letting it get this far,so it's our fault too.For years we ALL have sat back and whinged about the draft picks,coaches, hacks and duds we have on the list,but only once have we ever banded together to voice our opinion,and that was save our skins campaign.So if we all get in touch with the club by email, letters, in voice or a group constantly ,or continually telling them to clean out the hacks,no more one year dud fix ups,and give some of the kids a run,or sit back like we have with our heads in the sand and whinge,and still get no changes.It's our responsibility to our membership dollar to make sure changes do take place.For all paid up members own this club and have got a voice.

I understand where you're coming from zacs56, but unless the Club first accepts that it has a problem, us or anybody else telling them about the problems is not going to fix anything. The Club would probably tell us that we supporters have not been backward in coming forward, when it comes to telling them what's wrong with the place.

The good thing about what is happening now, however, is that they have finally woken up and acknowledged that there have been many real problems within the Club and are actively doing something about them.

It's taken us a long time to get to this position. But it's a lot better than at anytime in the past. So we can all be pleased about that, if nothing else.

 

[Harry]

It's taken us a long time to get to this position. But it's a lot better than at anytime in the past. So we can all be pleased about that, if nothing else.

Is it really MC? - I can remember tiger fans singing the praises of mark Brayshaw - and saying how good daffy is - and that we are not far off from a flag. People have short memories.

We are in the same position and have made no inroads for the past 10 years. The only time we started moving in the right direction was when Mal Brown shook the clubs foundations back in 93/94 (can't remember exactly), when board members were shown the door. - thats when players and coaches and board members and were performaing like there was no tomorrow. This was short lived and they've all gone back into their comfort zone. We need some tough decisions, a few sackings, a hanging and burning of some corpses so those fools at punt road wake up.

 

[MC24]

We are in the same position and have made no inroads for the past 10 years.

I disagree there Harry?

Greg Miller and Ian Campbell have only been there five minutes, not 10 years.

Some changes have already occurred, but others will take a little while longer before they can happen.

The results from those changes may also take some time to unfold.

We can call for heads to roll every time we lose a game, but it has been established that we can't do anything about our playing list until the end of the season at least.

So nothing much will probably change there in the immediate short-term. Results on the field is where it counts the most for all of us and it will probably look like nothing is happening or has happened.

Maybe we just have to have some faith in people, rather than jump up and down every time things don't go our way, or the way we want them to.

If people don't make the right decisions, we will know soon enough.