Its certainly relevant and needs to be addressed, but the narrative from the LNP doesn't even look at the detail. Stating that people are scared to go out, scared to go shopping etc, suggests an increase in violent offences which just isn't the case. The vast majority of the increases that we are seeing are increases in theft of motor vehicles (from homes, by young kids mainly, we've all seen the news reports and the change in the bail laws are focused on this) and shoplifting. How does having you car stolen from your house, or people shoplifting lead you to be scared to go out? Thats the assumption the LNP have come up with, if they don't know what the actual issue is, how do you expect them to fix it, they'd prefer to come up with statements like they did which are totally unrelated to facts, rather than actually address the facts.
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Its certainly relevant and needs to be addressed, but the narrative from the LNP doesn't even look at the detail. Stating that people are scared to go out, scared to go shopping etc, suggests an increase in violent offences which just isn't the case. The vast majority of the increases that we are seeing are increases in theft of motor vehicles (from homes, by young kids mainly, we've all seen the news reports and the change in the bail laws are focused on this) and shoplifting. How does having you car stolen from your house, or people shoplifting lead you to be scared to go out? Thats the assumption the LNP have come up with, if they don't know what the actual issue is, how do you expect them to fix it, they'd prefer to come up with statements like they did which are totally unrelated to facts, rather than actually address the facts.
Andrews had two strings to his bow:
Lie if safe to do so & if not suffer memory loss.
Ask the kid on the bike who got hit!
As to why did he lie, look up what narcissists characteristics are.
No wonder golf clubs didn’t want him, imagine being asked to mark his card!
Another conspiracy theorist. I suppose you believe he didn't slip on the step as well ?
With all the home invasions happening, you'd be more scared to go to bed than go out to the shops. Just imagine lying there in the dark all nuded up n giving the partner a little tap n squeeze then all of a sudden you've got the local machete crew surrounding the bed demanding your wallet, phones n car keys n stuff. At least if you're out down the road n shopping there's a good chance you've got your pants on.
Whilst I am concerned like most of us about rising crime stats I question the basic assumption that is made that it is a government's fault and that they can necessarily do a lot about it. We can have more police on the streets and stiffer sentences but I am not sure those things are anywhere near the whole answer ( not that I know what the answer is). If throwing more people in jail was the answer then there would be less crime in the US than here and there isn't.
Crime always increases when there is economic strain, when people struggle to survive and live normally day to day. More than 20% of all presentations at city hospital emergency depts on weekends are related to drugs and alcohol. We have far too many people off their heads. We have a crisis of mental health.
There are things that governments can do and those things will probably have a marginal effect but I just don't believe that any government can solve the increase in crime by simply being tough. It is way more complex than that.
Crime always increases when there is economic strain, when people struggle to survive and live normally day to day. More than 20% of all presentations at city hospital emergency depts on weekends are related to drugs and alcohol. We have far too many people off their heads. We have a crisis of mental health.
There are things that governments can do and those things will probably have a marginal effect but I just don't believe that any government can solve the increase in crime by simply being tough. It is way more complex than that.
The only conspiracy here is why the ALP tried to keep if from coming public & we all know why!
In regards to the step, you certainly couldn’t take Andrews word for what happened.
Keep you eye on the “bike boy” story.
Well he shouldn't have, no one else has ever done it before.
I remember a few years back MrsTT& I were looking at a 2 story display home, I was coming down the stairs looking at the decor obviously not concentrating, thought I had one step to go, put my foot out to take a big step & finished up sprawled on the floor. I'd missed 3 steps, fortunately there was no injuries apart from a sore knee& wounded pride.
It's very easy to do.
There is some theory that he was in some secret liaison with someone at the Fox family house and a fight or some such nonsense.
Have you seen the photo of the step in question?
The injuries described don't seem to match what most people would believe are possible which leads to people not being sold on what we've been told.
Also the fact Dan's a liar.
Does he keep paedophiles in the basement of a pizza shop too?
FFS, have you done detailed analysis of the steps in question and potential injuries, are you in the least bit qualified to make this assertion?
He fell over, so *smile* what.
DS
You should probably talk to a few doctors and orthopaedic specialists to understand just how easy it is to get bad injuries from fairly innocuous sounding incidents.
But hey, if you're the type that believes QAnon type conspiracy websites, with a particular focus on the Port Arthur Massacre being a false flag operation, that first posted this conspiracy, knock yourself out.
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The kid on the bike has recently had a massive legal win for not being properly represented.
Now he has the funds to proceed with his case of defamation against Dan Andrews. Will be interesting to see where this finishes up as the police investigation was very inconsistent with normal practice.
With the new emergency services levy being passed by ALP and the Greens, many farmers have and CFA volunteers have gone offline in protest.
This significant increase in tax has ment in basic terms that farmers who many are in the worst drought they have ever experienced are in open conflict with the state government. The ALP don’t seem to mind as their electorates will be largely unaffected.
This could be the end of the CFA as we know it.
This significant increase in tax has ment in basic terms that farmers who many are in the worst drought they have ever experienced are in open conflict with the state government. The ALP don’t seem to mind as their electorates will be largely unaffected.
This could be the end of the CFA as we know it.
Massive CFA protest coming up today. Wish I could join it. Taxing farmers in drought with a 150% tax increase is criminal. Hopefully the people of Melbourne can become a little more educated and learn about the reasons for the protest and get behind it.
Regional Victoria has had enough from this uncaring Melbourne State Government.
Regional Victoria has had enough from this uncaring Melbourne State Government.
Strange really, J A is from regional Victoria, Bendigo in fact.
So you'd think she'd be more sympathetic to their plight.
The conspiracy nuts share these attributes on PRE and beyond - huge degrees of moral outrage, overuse of hyperbolic punctuation and a general inability to argue the point.