VFL Round 5 - Richmond vs Carlton

[caesar]

So we play top of the ladder Carlton in the VFL on Sunday who have a percentage of 186%. In a practice match a month ago the Blues beat us by over a 100 points I think, they were certainly up 96 to about 16 at half time when i left.
Will be interesting to see how we stack up this time around.

 

[tigerdell]

So we play top of the ladder Carlton in the VFL on Saturday who have a percentage of 186%. In a practice match a month ago the Blues beat us by over a 100 points I think, they were certainly up 96 to about 16 at half time when i left.
Will be interesting to see how we stack up this time around.

we have such a young VFL side. And some development kids from rugby backgrounds.

I like the approach but some games will be ugly

 

[caesar]

we have such a young VFL side. And some development kids from rugby backgrounds.

I like the approach but some games will be ugly

Not exactly sure about total youth philosophy myself, our recent Grandfinal years have been supported by a very strong VFL program, success and a combination of youth and experience.

**Note: I am influenced by a discussion I had with Fly McCrae a couple of years ago:

When Fly was "promoted"? to a senior assistant coach I congratulated him but he said that it wasn't his preference at the time as he wanted to continue coaching the VFL side for a couple more years but he and the club had a difference of opinion on the direction of our VFL side. The club wanted to take it the total youth direction whereas Fly was more if it ain't broke don't fix it, success breeds success.

Interested what other people think?

 

[MB78]

Geelong, Footscray, Box Hill Hawks and us have all one flags at the same time period in AFL and VFL.

The better our VFL team translates to the AFL program.

 

[spook]

Not exactly sure about total youth philosophy myself, our recent Grandfinal years have been supported by a very strong VFL program, success and a combination of youth and experience.

**Note: I am influenced by a discussion I had with Fly McCrae a couple of years ago:

When Fly was "promoted"? to a senior assistant coach I congratulated him but he said that it wasn't his preference at the time as he wanted to continue coaching the VFL side for a couple more years but he and the club had a difference of opinion on the direction of our VFL side. The club wanted to take it the total youth direction whereas Fly was more if it ain't broke don't fix it, success breeds success.

Interested what other people think?

We made the VFL grand final in 2017 and won it in 2019. The 2017 VFL GF side contained experienced players like Maric, Hampson, Lloyd, Griffens, Lennon, Conca, Batchelor, Hunt, Miles and Morris. In 2019 we had Morro, Weller, Towner, and probably some others I can't recall off the top of my head. In many ways our list topped out maturity-wise in '17 and we had to shed some experienced journeymen like Lloyd and bring in more youth. The 2019 VFL side felt like it had more kids in it?

With rebuilding on the run and our reserves players getting poached I'm not sure we had much of a choice but to go young.

 

[taztiger4]

We made the VFL grand final in 2017 and won it in 2019. The 2017 VFL GF side contained experienced players like Maric, Hampson, Lloyd, Griffens, Lennon, Conca, Batchelor, Hunt, Miles and Morris. In 2019 we had Morro, Weller, Towner, and probably some others I can't recall off the top of my head. In many ways our list topped out maturity-wise in '17 and we had to shed some experienced journeymen like Lloyd and bring in more youth. The 2019 VFL side felt like it had more kids in it?

With rebuilding on the run and our reserves players getting poached I'm not sure we had much of a choice but to go young.

def had more kids, also had exp VFL players, Silver, Beasley, Ballard , Coff etc

 

[momentai]

Not exactly sure about total youth philosophy myself, our recent Grandfinal years have been supported by a very strong VFL program, success and a combination of youth and experience.

**Note: I am influenced by a discussion I had with Fly McCrae a couple of years ago:

When Fly was "promoted"? to a senior assistant coach I congratulated him but he said that it wasn't his preference at the time as he wanted to continue coaching the VFL side for a couple more years but he and the club had a difference of opinion on the direction of our VFL side. The club wanted to take it the total youth direction whereas Fly was more if it ain't broke don't fix it, success breeds success.

Interested what other people think?

Nice to have experience and youth playing as one, but with the relatively unknown quality of juniors coming in, caused through the reduction in time played as a result of COVID, not sure we have the space.

May seem strange but would love to see players like Sheds, Cotch and Jack play on in the VFL next season.

 

[Billy24]

So we play top of the ladder Carlton in the VFL on Saturday who have a percentage of 186%. In a practice match a month ago the Blues beat us by over a 100 points I think, they were certainly up 96 to about 16 at half time when i left.
Will be interesting to see how we stack up this time around.

RFC website shows game is Sunday 17th at Ikon (Princes) Park

 

[caesar]

RFC website shows game is Sunday 17th at Ikon (Princes) Park

You are correct and have edited in my original post.

 

[tigerdell]

Not exactly sure about total youth philosophy myself, our recent Grandfinal years have been supported by a very strong VFL program, success and a combination of youth and experience.

**Note: I am influenced by a discussion I had with Fly McCrae a couple of years ago:

When Fly was "promoted"? to a senior assistant coach I congratulated him but he said that it wasn't his preference at the time as he wanted to continue coaching the VFL side for a couple more years but he and the club had a difference of opinion on the direction of our VFL side. The club wanted to take it the total youth direction whereas Fly was more if it ain't broke don't fix it, success breeds success.

Interested what other people think?

as this discussion points out, it reflects the state of our overall list.
Ideally we have a mature, successful VFL side. But with our older 'afl' top 22, we are giving VFL game time to the younger players.
I'm happy to see RCD, Sonz, Rioli playing in the guts, Biggie as Full back etc and not having older VFL level players carry the load.
But no doubt we will be found out at times

 

[AstuteTiger]

VFL Tigers lock in side to face Blues​

Richmond VFL has named its team for Sunday's clash with Carlton at Ikon Park.
By Richmond Media

Richmond VFL has finalised its line-up for Sunday's clash with Carlton at Ikon Park.

Rebounding defender Nick Guiney will run out for his first game in the Yellow and Black.
The versatile 20-year-old arrived at Tigerland this season following an injury-affected season with the Oakleigh Chargers in 2021.
At 187cm and 93kg, he's a competitive youngster with excellent endurance and is strong in the contest.

Joining Guiney as this week's inclusions are Josh Caddy and Rhyan Mansell, while out of last week's side are Tom Brown, Cam Olden and Tom Bracher.

Kane Lambert, who played two quarters in last weekend's VFL win over Footscray in his first game of the year, is expected to play three quarters this week.
To follow match updates from Ikon Park, stay tuned to @RichmondVFL on Twitter.
Fans can also watch every game of the 2022 Smithy's VFL season LIVE on AFL.com.au and the AFL Live Official App.

Richmond VFL's Round 4 team v Carlton, Sunday, April 17, 11.05am AEST, Ikon Park
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B	31. R. Mansell	48. T.Young	47. B.Nyuon
BH	34. S.Banks	64. M.Faimalo	36. W. Martyn
C	29. T.Sonsie	26. R.Collier-Dawkins	15. K.Lambert
HF	38. N.Cumberland	43 J.Clarke	44 S.Stack
F	49. M.Rioli Jnr	32. S.Ryan	J.Caddy
R	20. I.Soldo	55. L.Street	16. J.Aarts
INT	71. J.Davies	62. N.Guiney	52. A.Hicks
	70. A.Johnson	72. M.Lefau
23rd	62. N.Guiney
EMG	58. C.Olden	56. R.Loton	54. J.Sexton
	73. S.Tucker	67. F.Elliot	66. B.Henderson
	65. J.Nathan

In: Josh Caddy, Rhyan Mansell, Nick Guiney
Out: Tom Brown, Cam Olden, Tom Bracher

VFL Tigers lock in side to face Blues

Richmond VFL has named its team for Sunday's clash with Carlton at Ikon Park.

www.richmondfc.com.au

 

[tigertim]

Tom Brown injured or rested already?

 

[AstuteTiger]

Tom Brown injured or rested already?

He was running laps, managed at a guess, maybe caesar can shed more light.

 

[caesar]

He was running laps, managed at a guess, maybe caesar can shed more light.

Tom Brown wasn't even jogging @AstuteTiger he walked about 3 laps bouncing a ball and that was it

 

[AstuteTiger]

Tom Brown wasn't even jogging @AstuteTiger he walked about 3 laps bouncing a ball and that was it

Walking/Jogging/running same same

 

[D85]

Worked in a few VFL programs over the years, I think having a blend of youth and experience is really important, ideally the on field coaching type, one or two in every line to help with the players development. There is more to it than just chucking all the youth in and seeing if theyll sink or swim.

 

[tigerman]

Here's hoping the likes of Syd, Sonsie, Cumberland, Biggie, MoJo, Mansel, Soldol etc have good games tomorrow, because there should be a some spots available.

 

[craig]

Here's hoping the likes of Syd, Sonsie, Cumberland, Biggie, MoJo, Mansel, Soldol etc have good games tomorrow, because there should be a some spots available.

Going by the way Dimma makes changes yeah there will probably be only 2

 

[snags]

Going by the way Dimma makes changes yeah there will probably be only 2

One of those will be Aarts into the 22

 

[AstuteTiger]

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