I thought you were good at maths CT? 46 million acres is a tad bit smaller than 1.8 billion acres.
Greta, is that you?I'm glad the end of the world is a good read for you.
Pretty sure humans have already done this a heap of times over their existence. Might have something to do with adaptability.Yes, we are in the process of ending our way of life on this planet,
Pretty sure humans have already done this a heap of times over their existence. Might have something to do with adaptability.
I thought you were good at maths CT? 46 million acres is a tad bit smaller than 1.8 billion acres.
Excuse the hyperbole. It's not all of Australia that's on fire. Let me rephrase.
"Deliveries are at a standstill because 46 million acres of Australia is on fire, while the rest of it (and some of New Zealand) chokes on the fumes."
Much less worrying.
Pretty sure humans have already done this a heap of times over their existence. Might have something to do with adaptability.
Excuse the hyperbole. It's not all of Australia that's on fire. Let me rephrase.
"Deliveries are at a standstill because 46 million acres of Australia is on fire, while the rest of it (and some of New Zealand) chokes on the fumes."
Much less worrying.
Well as someone involved in a business that delivers all over Australia deliveries aren't at a standstill and even deliveries to places like Batemans Bay are getting through. Yes, the highway between SA & WA was closed but has re-opened. Yes, deliveries were delayed for over a week but almost all locations in Aust are now receiving goods.
Should we be concerned about the recent events and will they result in significant change? Almost certainly yes and yes.
Should we be composting ourselves now? Probably not.
Hopefully those on the this is the end hyperbole bus are doing enough worrying for the rest of us.
In fairness this more a story about exponential growth but it helps to illustrate the nonsense of the claim that small effects have negligible consequences. All systems have "feedback loops". These are usually in the form of negative feedback, that is they pull on the reins to keep the system in something approaching balance. The global system of carbon sources and sinks that can be observed through ice cores etc. seem to show a system in balance. The sinks are able to soak up the excess CO2, CH4 etc. to keep the whole thing from running away. But what we don't know is what happens when you add in another factor in the form of CO2 from industry and human activity. That could push the system into positive feedback. The forcing factor, CO2, could overwhelm the ability of the sinks to keep the system in balance. Positive feedback is like the exponential growth of the grains of rice. This is the "China Syndrome" for global climate. It would be nice to feel so disconnected that you could "take the long view" and say "let's wait it out, it may not be so bad". But that is the 100-1000's of years view. I don't know anyone that lives that long and has the power to reverse the effects if the whole thing goes belly up. The sensible option is to start now. Haul on the brakes and try to get the rig into a manageable state. Doing nothing just isn't an option. The idea of "adapting" is utter nonsense. You can't "adapt" to a runaway system, you have lost control and doomed the species. If that can be avoided I am at a complete loss to understand why anyone would resist trying to?
...highlights the lack of intellectual capacity of the deniers.
This is the problem with climate models - the feedbacks are poorly understood, or not understood at all.
Earth's climate is self-regulating to an extent. 'Runaway climate change' is an extreme theory that not many climate scientists subscribe to. For such a scenario to eventuate, temperatures would need to reach a level which is not survivable anyway (about 67C). Certainly, "Venus 2.0" is science fiction.
If I thought there was any realistic possibility of temperature rising exponentially then I'd probably be calling for more significant emission cuts - just in case.
The bad news is that the sun is slowly getting brighter and the oceans are destined to evaporate completely...
Politics isn’t about explaining one’s position. It is actually a losing strategy. That’s why CC is about mud slinging and hyperbole and latching onto anything that supports your world view.Another brilliant way of engaging in conversation.
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...Another brilliant way of engaging in conversation.
Politics isn’t about explaining one’s position. It is actually a losing strategy. That’s why CC is about mud slinging and hyperbole and latching onto anything that supports your world view.
You see Midsy?If your a denier. We have science, you don't.
Another brilliant way of engaging in conversation.