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22nd Man

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Agree, finger pointing was never going to get us anywhere and thats what we've seen. A collaborative response to how to deal with pandemics better would have been a better approach.
Isn't that what WHO is for? No need for any country to call for an enquiry, WHOs mandate would make it a no brainer.
 
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tigerman

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Australia were the first country in the world to ban Huawei. Banning them from any involvement in our 5G Network was the correct decision. But for the sake of trade relations, I would've thought that it would be prudent for us to keep our heads down for awhile.

I'd bet my left one that if Morrison had his time again, he would 'quietly' lobby other countries for the WHO doing a thorough investigation into Covid.
For mine it was a mistake from the Morrison government being the first (again, get the theme) in calling out China to be investigated. It is going to cost Australia hundreds of billions of dollars in trade revenue, and thousands of jobs.
 
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Baloo

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I'd bet my left one that if Morrison had his time again, he would 'quietly' lobby other countries
Seriously? You're willing to bet your left nut on ScoMo doing something quietly instead of grand standing?
 
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Althom

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One consequence of China's bastardry is that beef, coal and iron ore prices are all surging.
 

tigerman

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Seriously? You're willing to bet your left nut on ScoMo doing something quietly instead of grand standing?
Yes, there's fair bit of, look at me, look at me with Morrison.
He bullies people in Australia, but can't get away with that internationally, he's completely out of his depth.
 
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Althom

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Glencore announcing they are reducing production of coal from South African and Columbian operations.

Less choice in the market for China and higher prices. Morons are now paying nearly $40/tonne more for coal that's lower quality than Australian.

Crap coal going to China.

Australian coal to where the crap previously went.
 
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Althom

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The uncoupling is happening, although at a faster rate than anyone would like.
It will be painful for us but in the end it will be good thing.

China's exports will become either more expensive due to them having to pay more for the products that have displaced Australia's or their quality will suffer.

More opportunity for India, Mexico etc to take business off China.
 
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MB78

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China banning Australian coal is a really bad environmental outcome. They will now be burning a more dirty less efficient coal which the world will pay for.
 
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Althom

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China banning Australian coal is a really bad environmental outcome. They will now be burning a more dirty less efficient coal which the world will pay for.
Do you think they give a "smile"?
They've got most of the world completely hoodwinked or cowed.
Their commitment to carbon neutrality by 2050 is an out and out lie but the idiots at the UN actually seem to believe they mean it.
You cannot carry on building the capacity of coal fired power stations they are putting together and at the same time carp on about "carbon neutrality".
Time their designation as a "Developing Nation" was rescinded.
 
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Legends of 2017

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Oh dear.

So under a treaty they would be allowed to fish in our waters. I don’t see what the issue is, China has proved over and over that international treaties, agreements and law mean jack *smile* to them, so why don’t the government grow a set and tell them to gtfo?
 
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Althom

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Oh dear.

The Chinese fishing fleet is a unit of their Navy. 100% guaranteed that this will result in them trying to engineer a clash between their "tiny little fishing boats" and our Navy and then the Chinese will ratchet matters up. The US will look the other way and then we're deeply in the "smile"
All because ScoMo couldn't keep his gob shut and leave diplomacy to the diplomats.
 
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Althom

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We have good relations with Papua New Guinea and should be leaning on them to shut the door.
We give PNG over $600M/a in aid and I believe this year there has been considerably more given and yet they do this without even consulting with us?
So much for a our good relations.
PNG is doing this to get China to take over some of their debt.
 
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tigerman

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We have good relations with Papua New Guinea and should be leaning on them to shut the door.
Since gaining independence New Guinea have relied on aid from Australia, unfortunately aid got slashed by the Abbott government, surprise surprise, the door has been left open for China.
It's a difficult one, because how Australian aid has been spent has been be open to question.
 

Althom

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Since gaining independence New Guinea have relied on aid from Australia, unfortunately aid got slashed by the Abbott government, surprise surprise, the door has been left open for China.
It's a difficult one, because how Australian aid has been spent has been be open to question.
The cut in aid to PNG was less than a 5% cut and aid has since been increased to in excess of $100M/year over what was previously given.
China doesn't give them anywhere near that but they've promised to buy some of PNG's debt in exchange for various favours.