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blx

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So they've opened up the horizontal plane by planting the marker but what about the vertical?

Are they going to stop the marker from flapping arms above their heads?
 

hutstar

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So they've opened up the horizontal plane by planting the marker but what about the vertical?

Are they going to stop the marker from flapping arms above their heads?
I like the rule except for this. The player really should be able to go back on the line (as the kicker can do) and jump as long as they are on that line and not over the mark. Otherwise, the rule is good.
 

josey

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Jayden Short seemed to like the new rule, and so will Bachar by the looks of things.

It will help teams to score from the back half and if you have elite half backs and guys like Vlaustin and Grimes who are elite at creating turnover this new rule will surely increase our scoring opportunities.

I'm not sure the AFL have thought this through:mhihi:mhihi
 
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Tenacious

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I assume I'm the only person (outside of Hocking, etc) that has liked the idea of this rule from the get-go.

There are two ways to have possession of the ball and have someone on the mark. One is getting a free kick, and the other is taking a mark. In both cases, the guy deserves to have the ball. But, unfairly in my opinion, umpires in recent years have called "play on" as soon as that player has taken a single step to the side while letting the guy standing the mark move anywhere he wants (other than over the mark). If one player can't move sideways, why should the other? The player who deserves to have the ball is at a disadvantage.

The new rule allows the player with the ball a split-second advantage, and will be good for the game.

Nuh - you weren’t quite Robinson Crusoe on that but it’s fair to say the overwhelming majority of posts here were those against it.

Based on our two games I don’t recall any clanger umpiring decisions relating to this rule (despite many horrible umpiring decisions elsewhere during the same games).

It would seem that the players have adapted and are immediately self-imposing the rule on themselves - hence no infringements.

Assuming this continues - I reckon the game looks better as a result of giving the bloke with the ball more options.
 
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Nuh - you weren’t quite Robinson Crusoe on that but it’s fair to say the overwhelming majority of posts here were those against it.

Based on our two games I don’t recall any clanger umpiring decisions relating to this rule (despite many horrible umpiring decisions elsewhere during the same games).

It would seem that the players have adapted and are immediately self-imposing the rule on themselves - hence no infringements.

Assuming this continues - I reckon the game looks better as a result of giving the bloke with the ball more options.
The bloke with the ball already had lots of advantages. This just gives them one more. The only thing this rule does well is it stops the Hawthorn (soon adopted by Collingwood and Geelong) spuds from infringing on the player on the mark. Had they explicitly outlawed that I'd have cheered them on. This rule is crap.
 
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jb03

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Yeah not a fan of the rule either, seems pointless. Thought though the umpires umpired it pretty well and gave appropriate leniency that was missing from the praccy game examples from a week earlier.
 

blx

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If the ball is on the wing what's to stop a team from having no marker and instead have that person guarding corridor space effectively forcing the kicker down the line.

I think the AFL's annual directive to keep opening up the game virtually makes Eggs selection a shoe in. A backline of elite kickers in Short, Houli, Bakes and even the Egg will come to the fore.

Port and Lions play a very physical style and will have to adopt quickly or face being caught out flexing too much muscle.

Like Jake the Mus said "too much weights, not enough speed work"

We are in a good space as most of the team have slimmed down over summer and looking really fit.

My only concern is how this might affect our pressure game.
 
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Baloo

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If the ball is on the wing what's to stop a team from having no marker and instead have that person guarding corridor space effectively forcing the kicker down the line.
Pretty sure Baker did exactly that last night
 

davidc0055

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If the ball is on the wing what's to stop a team from having no marker and instead have that person guarding corridor space effectively forcing the kicker down the line.

Nothing is stopping a player from guarding corridor space. But that also means that no one is on the mark, and the player with the ball can play on straight over the mark. Surely that's better than the previous situation where the player with the ball is almost corralled into only one option
 
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TigerMasochist

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We are in a good space as most of the team have slimmed down over summer and looking really fit.

My only concern is how this might affect our pressure game.
Shouldn't be an issue at all. We've still got plenty of players that happily indulge in the physical pressure side of things n half the " pressure ' issue is implied pressure anyway. Always a player harassing the ball carrier, or surrounding the contest forcing them to rush disposal without thinking or sizing up options.
 
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spook

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The rule says you can't replace the man on the mark, but they let Cox replace Jack's opponent on the mark in the third quarter. He is American, though.
 
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hutstar

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The bloke with the ball already had lots of advantages. This just gives them one more. The only thing this rule does well is it stops the Hawthorn (soon adopted by Collingwood and Geelong) spuds from infringing on the player on the mark. Had they explicitly outlawed that I'd have cheered them on. This rule is crap.
The player with the ball, in the case of a freekick or mark, has less advantage than a player in free play with the ball. This gives them the advantage they deserve. This rule has potential.
 
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spook

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I don't think anyone else stood the mark, they all just walked off and let him take it because the siren had sounded and he couldn't play on. It doesn't have to be your opponent that takes it.
When is it "walking off" and when is it moving?
 

Baloo

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When is it "walking off" and when is it moving?
It's walking off before the umpire yells "STAND STAND STAND STAND STAND STAND"
It's moving after the umpire yells "STAND STAND STAND STAND STAND STAND"
 
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Do you think any players will hear "stand" on a normal grand final day?
 

tigermouseau

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Not liking the new rules.
The one I haven’t seen mentioned is pushing the mark back a further 5 metres when opponents are kicking in after a behind. Now the mark is 15m behind the “goal square”, and player on mark not to move until oppo plays on. It just makes it too easy for defender to get his kick well outside 50 which makes our trademark forward pressure less effective. The manning the mark is a joke and makes for a less skilled game. Sure the scoring might be high (ala saints v blues) but it is like watching circle work. Was horrible imho.
 
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Not liking the new rules.
The one I haven’t seen mentioned is pushing the mark back a further 5 metres when opponents are kicking in after a behind. Now the mark is 15m behind the “goal square”, and player on mark not to move until oppo plays on. It just makes it too easy for defender to get his kick well outside 50 which makes our trademark forward pressure less effective. The manning the mark is a joke and makes for a less skilled game. Sure the scoring might be high (ala saints v blues) but it is like watching circle work. Was horrible imho.
When is "play on" called from kick-in? It is way too much of an advantage to have the man marking the kick-in made to STAND!
 

AngryAnt

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Nothing is stopping a player from guarding corridor space. But that also means that no one is on the mark, and the player with the ball can play on straight over the mark. Surely that's better than the previous situation where the player with the ball is almost corralled into only one option

exacta-mundo
 

DavidSSS

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I didn't watch the game but from the highlights the maggots seemed to be calling play on a bit quicker - now if they can get some consistency in that (yeah, I know, big ask) it would help.

I am not a fan of this rule change, I reckon it is a bit ridiculous.

What I am far less a fan of is the constant rule changes, they must average a few each and every year and it has become a farce. Every year the season ends and we all wait in anxious anticipation for the latest brain fart from the AFL. Rule changes should not be common and they need to be carefully considered and tried out.

We are guaranteed to see some shockers from this rule, already seen a couple in practice games. And when someone says that the ruling was wrong because the umpire may have been consistent with the rule as written but not consistent with the flow or the spirit of the game, I'll throw up.

DS
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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Not a new rule as such but the AFL has announced the Grand Final is back to a day time slot.

Fair to say the widespread suggestion the AFL would use last year's different landscape to maintain the changes is looking pretty silly.
Credit where due, they have taken the sensible options on grand final start/20-minute quarters. With things not quite back to normal, now is not the time to alienate people who've had a long spell away from the game.

Last year a night final made sense given the warm Brisbane weather in October and 60% of games starting after 5pm during the season (previous high 45% in 2007).
 
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