Agree, it was apparent we were going to lose the game from halfway through the last.
Wasn't a great umpiring performance but not extraordinarily bad.
Doesn't mean we can't call them nasty things though.
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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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Wasn't a great umpiring performance but not extraordinarily bad.
Doesn't mean we can't call them nasty things though.
We've dominated the comp for four years and barely ever won a free kick count.
Said the same in the 1st half, was pretty much like there were 2 rulebooks for HTB particularly in the 1st half.
1 other point which I hate, we are always punished hard on 50m penalties but it feels like we don't get it the other way. Compare the downfield free paid against Grimes for apparently a late bump (there was nothing in it) which gave Mihocek a free in front of goal, to the one in the last few mins, Grimes wins a free for HTB on the edge of our D50, ump pays free, Grimes goes to pick up the ball and is tackled by Sidebum. The clearest 50 you will see, not paid. As its so late, Grimes had to go hard so kicked into the corridor, turns it over and I think they kicked a goal. Whilst I agree that umps weren't the cause of the loss, but that lack of 50 being paid, certainly put the final nail in our coffin. Any chance of getting back into the game was gone right there.
Another truly inconsistent and sub-standard effort. I once saw a cow shoot a stream of excrement from its anus.
Yesterday I saw three umpires do the same.
Yesterday I saw three umpires do the same.
The one that baffled me was an advantage paid on a 50 metre penalty. The original decision was a mark not a free kick. I think Naish strolled into the protected zone which caused a 50 metre penalty but they paid advantage on it and they kicked a goal.
Dont even think thats a rule however happy to change my mind if someone explains it to me
Dont even think thats a rule however happy to change my mind if someone explains it to me
Rather than just basic frees for and against, is there any stats on types of frees - htb, htm, ruck, arm chop, high, itb, etc - would give a bit more insight into whether we are out of line with averages across the board or have a deficiency in some parts of how we play the game.
you are right. I am sure if we had won more games over the last 4 years we would have been given more frees.
That was right in front of me, I was scratching my head too, players were confused.
We stopped in last Q no doubt about that, but the first 2 frees( Adams and Quaynor) to the scum in the final Q set the standard, I think some of the boys stopped going in hard or some became very hesitant because the clear inconsistency in the umpiring.
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The one that got me, which i have never seen before, pies were lining up for goal, no one went and stood on the mark, then DTLD came and went to man the mark, but the umpire wouldnt let him stand on the mark, he had to stand 5 meters back.
Since when is that a rule, that you cant man the mark if no one went to stand the mark?
Since when is that a rule, that you cant man the mark if no one went to stand the mark?
That's a generous assessment of lack of effort in last quarter viz 3 tackles
And a cop,out.
what, you dont know the rule that saved Australian Rules Football?
it is part of the "stand" rule. if no-one is on the mark quickly then you cannot go closer than 5mtrs to the mark.
good to see they paid 50mt for the 1st time since about rd 3 today, cos Dusty moved a metre to the right when the player with the ball did the same thing. quality rule that.
The stand rule and the rule that allows a player to run 30 metres out from goal when kicking in after a behind are the worst rule implementations i have seen in 4 plus decades of watching footy.
SHocking is a *smile* disgrace.
Disagree. I think the umpires were very influential in giving Pies the run on to help them win the game. At one stage frees were 7 a piece. Pies received 17 of the next 24 frees plus 2 x 50s. In our heyday it wouldn't have demoralised us. As a weaker younger team it has more influence. The umpiring inconsistencies against Tigers particularly on 50-50 decisions does my head in.
Yeah couldn't help but compare the AFL to soccer whilst watching the football this morning.
Redundant rules in soccer are removed (such as keepers only taking I think 6 steps with the ball in their hands, the rule from a goal kick where no players could be inside the penalty area, now allowing defenders etc) have improved the game. Can we say that about any of the changes in AFL? Other games don't just invent new rules like the AFL seem to, they adjust and update existing rules to improve the game.
I used to be a firm believer in this basic princible. But after the ladt 4 years of us dominating play and getting screwed, I no longer do. And it ain't my one-eyedness, its hard data.
On yesterday, I agree. Umps did a couple of shockers, but my previous point notwithstanding, if you have momentum, the umps go with it.
a big issue in the AFL (the Australian Football League- the AFL is not the game itself despite what it thinks) is that AFL execs want (higher scoring) the opposite of what coaches want (lower scores against). so the AFL brings in small rule changes, that affect all levels of Australian Rules Football, not just the AFL, but the coaches then just adjust, so the end result is nothing.
If they want to bring substantial change to the way Aussie Rules is played they will need to bring in substantial rule changes, but they know they cant so they keep tinkering, which ultimately does little but annoy (or worse) the fans.
Australian Rules Football needs a separate rules committee, and governing body, that looks after the game as a whole.
