Don’t want to go to the draft with 6 picks this year - would rather sell off lower picks for the Bombers first round pick next year. Spend next year developing all the young talent we already have.
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Trade period 2021
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TP would need to be a special player that could contribute to the RFC for text 5+ years.
My strong preference is not to sacrifice draft picks unnecessarily. Maximise as many draft picks as possible in the top 25-30. The uncertainties associated with the last 2 yrs of junior footy, particularly in Vic, suggest that clubs will be able to unearth quality in the 10-30 range.
Could not agree more H. Would also add that picking up the kids does not necessarily mean that we will not be able to contend in 2022 as well.
Youthful enthusiasm is a wonderful thing!
Interesting decision to be made.
Melbourne is now being hailed as the drafting gurus as they have used the get multiple picks in one year and let them grow together.
We actually have that system going right now
Balta, Bolton, Baker, Graham already in the top side
RCD Ross Ralphsmith Mansell Dow coming through. I would add Cumberland here as expect he will get a contract
So do we take 6/7 picks this year as they will be close in age to the above players or 3/4 this year and 3/4 next year
We still have the bulk of our premiership players and still in some form. Just need some luck with injuries through 2022. Then as they retire we have the next wave coming thorugh
Not convinced about the quality in this cohort. We need to hit the draft hard this yr.
Maybe 6 or 7 could be too many ?
But if we do have 5 in the top 35, that sounds like a good opportunity to get some quality young players
Why not do both and use a hybrid model? We still have enough quality to go for premierships NOW but we also don't want to neglect the future.
If we were to offer the Hawks Pick 15 for JOM, we would still go to the draft with 7, the picks in the 20's and hopefully pushing those 3rds up the draft either this year or next.
Totally agree.
Grab one ready to go pick 15 or pick 26
We have picks we can off load and still have enough to attack the draft.
1 player Omeara Mitchell or Sicily
And pick 7, 26, 28, 34, 38 for kids to bring in.
Those players mentioned have only played 64 games between them, with Ross playing 29.
On JOM
6 clearances a game. 5 tackles. 26 disposals.
Batting #2 in an ordinary side that likes to go high possession, so numbers are inflated.
Starts season 2022 as a 28 year old. With a body of a 48 yo. Big question mark.
Is 15 too high?
No doubt on Wednesday morning he would be available at pick 26. If he is still there.
As of interest. Traded back in 2016 for 23, 36 and the next years 7 (to get the saints first round 10) *23 =25 and 36 = 39 due to comp picks.
Plus 26 in 2017.
Drafted instead were Ben Long, Josh Battle, Hunter Clark, Liam Ryan.
A good example of how packaging up draft picks for 1 higher pick can backfire.
You are not going to get top line players every year. List sizes and salary cap mean you need to have a number of good ordinary players, like Castagna, McIntosh and Broad.
If 2 or 3 of RCD Ross Ralphsmith Mansell Dow get to good ordinary then this helps set the base of the team for the next 10 years. We can fill the gaps from trades and free agency
The other thing to consider with how many draft picks to use this year is that the draftees are on minimum wage for two years.
6 new draftees reduces the salary amount and allows the club to bring forward some other contract payments and get us set up to go after an A grade free agent in the next year or two
6 new draftees reduces the salary amount and allows the club to bring forward some other contract payments and get us set up to go after an A grade free agent in the next year or two
Understand that development opportunities for these kids have been less than ideal in the last 2yrs. Just can't help feeling underwhelmed with what I have seen thus far.
Neither player for me and really don’t rate omeara . Maybe all the knee problems but think he’s just an ordinary player now.
not wanting to disparage him but rather play our young kids and see who has a future.
Herald Sun reporting that we trying to get the Pies pick 27.
Richmond is poised to be a major player in this year’s draft as it eyes five selections in the top-30. Here’s how the Tigers plan to add another selection, plus the latest trade buzz.
Jon Ralph and Marc McGowan
Richmond is taking aim at Collingwood’s pick 27 but the touted deal depends on the Tigers securing a trade with North Melbourne for Robbie Tarrant.
It’s understood Richmond is willing to bundle up selections 38 – the free agency compensation for new Sun Mabior Chol – 42 and 47 to acquire what is currently the Magpies’ top pick.
That would give the Tigers an extraordinary five picks inside the top 30, while Collingwood would have almost 500 more draft points to match a bid for father-son prospect Nick Daicos.
The Pies have already been heavily involved in pick swaps this week, including most recently sending No. 22 to Fremantle on Thursday for 27 and a future third-round selection.
Essendon is also believed to have registered its interest in Collingwood’s 27 and willing to part with a future pick to make it work.
The urgency for the Tigers is that free agency closes on Friday.
They have already convinced unrestricted free agent Tarrant to join them on a two-year deal but want to trade for him rather than sign him directly to avoid diluting the Chol compensation.
The other player mixed into these negotiations is Richmond ruck-forward Callum Coleman-Jones, who wants to be traded to the Kangaroos, where he would be Todd Goldstein’s eventual successor.
Much of the thought process up to this point was that Tarrant would be tied into whatever the Coleman-Jones deal looked like.
However, that trade is still some way from a resolution, with the clubs unable to find a common ground on Coleman-Jones’ worth.
There is also the threat of North taking the 22-year-old to the pre-season draft, where the Roos have the No. 1 choice, but clubs typically prefer to avoid that.
Richmond is poised to be a major player in this year’s draft as it eyes five selections in the top-30. Here’s how the Tigers plan to add another selection, plus the latest trade buzz.
Jon Ralph and Marc McGowan
Richmond is taking aim at Collingwood’s pick 27 but the touted deal depends on the Tigers securing a trade with North Melbourne for Robbie Tarrant.
It’s understood Richmond is willing to bundle up selections 38 – the free agency compensation for new Sun Mabior Chol – 42 and 47 to acquire what is currently the Magpies’ top pick.
That would give the Tigers an extraordinary five picks inside the top 30, while Collingwood would have almost 500 more draft points to match a bid for father-son prospect Nick Daicos.
The Pies have already been heavily involved in pick swaps this week, including most recently sending No. 22 to Fremantle on Thursday for 27 and a future third-round selection.
Essendon is also believed to have registered its interest in Collingwood’s 27 and willing to part with a future pick to make it work.
The urgency for the Tigers is that free agency closes on Friday.
They have already convinced unrestricted free agent Tarrant to join them on a two-year deal but want to trade for him rather than sign him directly to avoid diluting the Chol compensation.
The other player mixed into these negotiations is Richmond ruck-forward Callum Coleman-Jones, who wants to be traded to the Kangaroos, where he would be Todd Goldstein’s eventual successor.
Much of the thought process up to this point was that Tarrant would be tied into whatever the Coleman-Jones deal looked like.
However, that trade is still some way from a resolution, with the clubs unable to find a common ground on Coleman-Jones’ worth.
There is also the threat of North taking the 22-year-old to the pre-season draft, where the Roos have the No. 1 choice, but clubs typically prefer to avoid that.
we should be targeting the dogs pick 23 with 38, 42, 47 which will give the dogs 360 extra pointsHerald Sun reporting that we trying to get the Pies pick 27.
Richmond is poised to be a major player in this year’s draft as it eyes five selections in the top-30. Here’s how the Tigers plan to add another selection, plus the latest trade buzz.
Jon Ralph and Marc McGowan
Richmond is taking aim at Collingwood’s pick 27 but the touted deal depends on the Tigers securing a trade with North Melbourne for Robbie Tarrant.
It’s understood Richmond is willing to bundle up selections 38 – the free agency compensation for new Sun Mabior Chol – 42 and 47 to acquire what is currently the Magpies’ top pick.
That would give the Tigers an extraordinary five picks inside the top 30, while Collingwood would have almost 500 more draft points to match a bid for father-son prospect Nick Daicos.
The Pies have already been heavily involved in pick swaps this week, including most recently sending No. 22 to Fremantle on Thursday for 27 and a future third-round selection.
Essendon is also believed to have registered its interest in Collingwood’s 27 and willing to part with a future pick to make it work.
The urgency for the Tigers is that free agency closes on Friday.
They have already convinced unrestricted free agent Tarrant to join them on a two-year deal but want to trade for him rather than sign him directly to avoid diluting the Chol compensation.
The other player mixed into these negotiations is Richmond ruck-forward Callum Coleman-Jones, who wants to be traded to the Kangaroos, where he would be Todd Goldstein’s eventual successor.
Much of the thought process up to this point was that Tarrant would be tied into whatever the Coleman-Jones deal looked like.
However, that trade is still some way from a resolution, with the clubs unable to find a common ground on Coleman-Jones’ worth.
There is also the threat of North taking the 22-year-old to the pre-season draft, where the Roos have the No. 1 choice, but clubs typically prefer to avoid that.
Pick 27 gives the pies an extra 470 point - equivalent to pick 38
Only time will tell if this is a good move to load up on the draft.
Hopefully we've put the work in & pick the right kids with a bit of luck on the way..
Hopefully we've put the work in & pick the right kids with a bit of luck on the way..
Unless the dogs have plans on trading away pick 23 to another team for picks, there's no reason why they would refuse this trade as they'll have to throw 23 away for Darcy and have less picks left over for other players. Unless they have no list spots left or they don't want to strengthen the powerful tigers.
