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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

There was a free paid to Mansell in the 3rd quarter which he goaled from, it was pretty obvious. Controlling umpire is standing boundary side looking straight at it, refuses to pay it. Non controlling umpire from the centre of the field comes running along and pays the free correctly. Why does the non controlling ump have to over rule an umpire closer for a decision that is stone wall, it wasn't even a 50/50, more like a 90/10 and the controlling umpire from 10m away won't pay it. That tells me there is clearly a conscious or unconscious bias.
It was infuriating. There was a delay and my first thought was "surely they cannot get away with not paying that!!!"

Clearly a free and the umpire looking directly at it refuses to pay it. There has to be more to it.

Even the free against Shai in our F50 was not really there. And the ball stayed in and Shai was swooping I think. And of course (it was that *smile* Donlon) you knew any reaction from Shai would be punished with a 50. We were 17 points up and had all the momentum. Those sort of decisions cvan swing games.

I can totally understand our players being frustrated.
 
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Less talking about it and more action required.
Surely the club can prepare a video highlighting the inconsistency? They would have that much footage and data. I'd volunteer to go through it.
 
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The AFL has gone to 4 umpires so no frees are missed but what we see is umpires who don’t know the rules, are incapable of making decisions and are totally inconsistent in their interpretation of the rules
They’re like sailors trying to fly a jumbo 747
 
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Surely the club can prepare a video highlighting the inconsistency? They would have that much footage and data. I'd volunteer to go through it.
I reckon there are man years of work to do it right. Need to crowd source it somehow.
 
New TV required (again)

Can anyone recommend a TV with shatter proof glass by a thrown stubbie? :mad:
 
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We are currently 2nd last for average frees for. That will change by next week, and we will be last. Again.

Dwayne Russell is one guy who is onto the rort. He's said a couple of times the last few weeks that he used to follow the media crowd when it came to Richmond i.e. that it was our game style (bullsht) that caused a big free kick differential blah blah blah.

But he admitted he was wrong. He said he went back over years of data and the issue is that Richmond get so few free kicks from the umpires compared to every other team in the league and that this was the real issue. He correctly pointed out that Richmond doesnt play some "strange style" that solicits so fewer frees than the other 17 teams.

He questioned what was going on in the umpiring department where the officiating of Richmond games was concerned and that answers needed to be provided where the lack of frees paid to us was concerned.

Yeah. Good luck with that.
 
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Beyond embarrassing for the AFL , if it was a Norf and they were rightly trying to extinct them you could see why , however it’s just rubbish has been for a while now . AFL need to adress the 50/50 that always go against and the ludicrous ones not paid , games cooked
 
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We are currently 2nd last for average frees for. That will change by next week, and we will be last. Again.

Dwayne Russell is one guy who is onto the rort. He's said a couple of times the last few weeks that he used to follow the media crowd when it came to Richmond i.e. that it was our game style (bullsht) that caused a big free kick differential blah blah blah.

But he admitted he was wrong. He said he went back over years of data and the issue is that Richmond get so few free kicks from the umpires compared to every other team in the league and that this was the real issue. He correctly pointed out that Richmond doesnt play some "strange style" that solicits so fewer frees than the other 17 teams.

He questioned what was going on in the umpiring department where the officiating of Richmond games was concerned and that answers needed to be provided where the lack of frees paid to us was concerned.

Yeah. Good luck with that.
Except when he's commentating, I don't mind Dwayne.
 
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There was a free paid to Mansell in the 3rd quarter which he goaled from, it was pretty obvious. Controlling umpire is standing boundary side looking straight at it, refuses to pay it. Non controlling umpire from the centre of the field comes running along and pays the free correctly. Why does the non controlling ump have to over rule an umpire closer for a decision that is stone wall, it wasn't even a 50/50, more like a 90/10 and the controlling umpire from 10m away won't pay it. That tells me there is clearly a conscious or unconscious bias.

The data supports it, our eyes support it. Everpne but TBR sees it.

We get the rough end of the stick, at our home ground, and away.

Umps clearly hate richmond.

Why? Maybe because we hate them?

Vindictivness is standard human and umpires are human.

I dunno? Havnt heard a decent explaination of a profoundly significant data set yet.

Jack Reiwoldt was absolutely giving it to them in the commentary box.

I dont reckon hell be there long.
 
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Surely the club can prepare a video highlighting the inconsistency? They would have that much footage and data. I'd volunteer to go through it.

I honestly think the only change would come through member action.

We somehow force RFC hand to take a stand.

Not sure how.

If i was boss, i wouldnt send a team to gather round.

Forfeit and say were not *smile* playing until we get officiated like everyone else

The data is there - its one pie chart showing free differential by club for the last decade
 
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I just want to walk away from one game thinking the umpires reamed the other team. Just one.
 
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I just want to walk away from one game thinking the umpires reamed the other team. Just one.

I just want to watch a game footy and not notice the umps.

Its so enjoyable when it happens (state leagues)
 
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I honestly think the only change would come through member action.

We somehow force RFC hand to take a stand.

Not sure how.

If i was boss, i wouldnt send a team to gather round.

Forfeit and say were not *smile* playing until we get officiated like everyone else

The data is there - its one pie chart showing free differential by club for the last decade
They would fine us into bankruptcy.
 
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The data supports it, our eyes support it. Everpne but TBR sees it.

We get the rough end of the stick, at our home ground, and away.

Umps clearly hate richmond.

Why? Maybe because we hate them?

Vindictivness is standard human and umpires are human.

I dunno? Havnt heard a decent explaination of a profoundly significant data set yet.

Jack Reiwoldt was absolutely giving it to them in the commentary box.

I dont reckon hell be there long.

Theres been a bit of a change with the commentary around umps this year from the media. I'll hasten a guess that Gill was heavy handed on anyone that talks down the product, I reckon Dillon is a bit more of an introvert and maybe doesn't act out so much. Hopefully this is the start of the change and if it was Gil that was the roadblock (I think he was personally) then maybe the goalposts have changed enough now to have a serious conversation via the non-AFL media (ie. the Fox media) pushing for change.
 
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And how many pointless reviews do we get now? Even the goal umps are useless.
 
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Use either of these email addresses. Send a message to the club. I have.

Let’s see what the club will do if enough people actually show their disgust and outrage.
Or will people just bleat about it every week, without the balls to do something about it?

”We’ve had enough and we’re not going to take it anymore”
Hi,
If the Richmond Football Club isn’t going to represent its members and question the afl in regard to its umpires and the continued mistreatment of our players.
I will be having serious thoughts of continuing with my club membership.
Over the last years it is quite apparent that the umpiring fraternity has a significant bias against our players. First it was claimed to be our “playing style”, then when other clubs play the same style, the umpiring doesn’t change for them.
It’s *smile*.
The fixture.
The afl club dividends.
The MRO and its petty little fines against any Richmond player.
The MRO and its bias against Marlion Pickett
Corrupt changing of match rules at the whim of one person.
Caroline Wilson’s claim “Richmond and the afl are at war”.

It seems this contrived game is not about being a sports competition but a sports entertainment where the clear goal is about money making, bonuses to afl department heads, a Commission that doesn’t represent the game, the clubs or the games members.
If people within the club followed social media, they’d be aware of the outrage and disgust that is quite apparent. Firstly with how the afl treat our club, or players and its membership. Secondly, what is the club going to do about it.
This will have a massive effect of people renewing memberships.
Regards Willo
RFC member # 1072626
 
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They would fine us into bankruptcy.


How about if we played, but didnt compete for the ball

:vomit

The bias cant be explained by corruption (bookies), because free differentials would be random across clubs

I think it has to be a self fulfiling feedback loop,

Where we hate the umps, so they hate us, and then we hate them more, so they hate us more.
 
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