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Marriage Equality

Ian4

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thought there was already thread on this, but I can't seem to find it (maybe I used the wrong key words in the search function?). mods please merge if it does exist.

anyway, thoughts on Margaret Court?
 

tigertim

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Outdated views but the flak she copped from the left is OTT just as the flak the woman who tweeted on Anzac Day copped from the right.

It's just pathetic that whenever someone says anything the baying public are waiting to tear someone down.
 

Rosy

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Margaret Court is entitled to her own opinions and beliefs...as are we all.
 

Ian4

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tigertim said:
Outdated views but the flak she copped from the left is OTT

you think the reaction to a person who said lesbian tennis players prey on younger players and compared their mind altering techniques with Nazi Germany, is over the top do you?
 

Baloo

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Ian4 said:
you think the reaction to a person who said lesbian tennis players prey on younger players

Dermie made up the same thing about the AWFL but no one seemed to care
 

TigerForce

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tigertim said:
Outdated views but the flak she copped from the left is OTT just as the flak the woman who tweeted on Anzac Day copped from the right.

It's just pathetic that whenever someone says anything the baying public are waiting to tear someone down.

Yep. It's hardwired into the Baby Boomers Generation mentality.
 

1eyedtiger

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rosy3 said:
Margaret Court is entitled to her own opinions and beliefs...as are we all.

But she's not entitled to tell others what they can and can't do or how to live their lives. Unless you're gay, it's really none of your business and doesn't affect you. This whole discussion is bizarre. If gay marriage is really that much of a problem, then scrap 'marriage' altogether and call everything a 'civil union'.

Funny thing is, most of the objections I've heard come from either bigots with nothing better to do or are on religious grounds. Wouldn't be the same religion that believes that mankind started with Adam and Eve would it? Maybe take a minute to think about that. I guess the garden of Eden was in Tasmania. :blah
 

tigertim

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Ian4 said:
you think the reaction to a person who said lesbian tennis players prey on younger players and compared their mind altering techniques with Nazi Germany, is over the top do you?
That's what I wrote.
 

Rosy

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1eyedtiger said:
But she's not entitled to tell others what they can and can't do or how to live their lives.
.......

I wasn't aware she did that so can't really comment about it. I see a bit of hypocrisy in your comment though.
 

IanG

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tigertim said:
Outdated views but the flak she copped from the left is OTT just as the flak the woman who tweeted on Anzac Day copped from the right.

It's just pathetic that whenever someone says anything the baying public are waiting to tear someone down.

The reaction to her original comments were OTT however her comments since then are indefensible and completely deserving of condemnation.
 

1eyedtiger

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rosy3 said:
I wasn't aware she did that so can't really comment about it. I see a bit of hypocrisy in your comment though.

I see a lot of hypocrisy over this whole issue. You say she's got the right to an opinion. I agree but that doesn't extend to the point of dictating to others how to live their lives. And that's what she is doing. She doesn't support gay marriage. If we have a vote on it, I assume she'll vote no. What do you think a stupid vote will be? That's right, a bunch of bigots who can't mind their own business getting a say in how others live their lives when it's really none of their business. Margaret Court won't fly Qantas, good for her. Some tennis players may boycott Margaret Court arena, good for them too. I certainly hope the people sticking up for Margaret Court's right to free speech aren't criticizing the players or denouncing those calling to change the name of the stadium. Those doing that have their right to their opinion too.

What next will we have a referendum on? Maybe gay people shouldn't be allowed access to the internet? Should they be allowed to vote in elections? :help
 

Brodders17

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tigertim said:
Outdated views but the flak she copped from the left is OTT just as the flak the woman who tweeted on Anzac Day copped from the right.

It's just pathetic that whenever someone says anything the baying public are waiting to tear someone down.

difference is what Court said was stupid and she deserves the flak.
 

tigertim

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WesternTiger said:
She is a reglious fundamentalist. I know most would be up in arms if she was a Muslim...
That's what I'm saying. The "left" get up in arms when it's Christian and the "right" get up in arms when it's Muslim.
 

year of the tiger

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I have no problem is she or anyone else voices their opinions - we all have a right to - as long as it is done with respect.

Afraid Court showed absolutely no respect in what she said or how she said it - it was aggressive, provocative and hurtful to many people - she has completely lost my respect as a famous Australian sports person.
 

KnightersRevenge

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Not sure how I feel about having the Stadium name changed. I would just make an official statement that she will be asked to avoid any reference to her out-dated and religiously motivated views at official functions and that the Stadium/Tournament management disagrees with her views. End of. If she can't adhere to this she won't be given any media roles or speaking opportunities in any official capacity. She is free to speak her mind as a private citizen, just not allowed used the platform of Aus Open or Stadium.
 

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KnightersRevenge said:
Not sure how I feel about having the Stadium name changed.

I thought the same at first until I read Martina Navratilova's suggestion of the Evonne Goolagong Arena.
 

KnightersRevenge

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Baloo said:
I thought the same at first until I read Martina Navratilova's suggestion of the Evonne Goolagong Arena.

Look who wouldn't love to see Goolagong honoured? But I disagree with using identity politics to do it. Rename Vodafone or Hisense or whatever it called.
 

Harry

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I see some players are threatening to boycott playing on the Margaret Court Areana. Perhaps they should also boycott playing in countries where homosexuality is illegal.
 

Ian4

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year of the tiger said:
Afraid Court showed absolutely no respect in what she said or how she said it - it was aggressive, provocative and hurtful to many people - she has completely lost my respect as a famous Australian sports person.

well said. depression and suicide rates are much higher in the gay and lesbian community. she would not give 2 sh!ts about that.