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Rio Olympics
- Thread starter Mr Brightside
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Ridley said:Eliza McCartney is magnificent
Not a bad pole vaulter either :hihi
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Loved her attitude.
I knew Chiller was a pentathlete, I didn't know she was a world champ, though. She was absolutely beside herself with Chloe's win.mk33 said:
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LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Actually, it wasn't. I didn't mind that last call, harsh as it was. The refs were consistent all game, all tournament really. They called absolutely everything. Mills knew he was going to foul. The Spanish player was looking to cannon into someone and Mills was back peddling as fast as he could to avoid the foul. Unfortunately, he didn't quite have defensive position and his arms were flopping around as he was off balance. It was a very harsh call but a fair one in the context of everything else that had happened.
What I like about Basketball is that the refs call everything they see. There are no judgment calls around what to call and what to ignore. They don't try to keep the play flowing, or swallow their whistle late in the game, or give the occasional benefit of the doubt, or choose which fouls to call and which to let go, or make a call on reputation, "Look, there's Selwood, I think I'll give him a free just to open the game up."
If it is there, in the ref's opinion, he just calls it. That's it. No bull dust extra level of complexity to add to the spectacle.
I watched that whole game last night and, at the end of it, I couldn't recall a single non-call that advantaged Spain.
When I watch the Tigers lose those close games, there is no end to the decisions and non-decisions that could have gone either way that had a massive influence on the result.
To me, that is the issue with the way AFL games are umpired. We can all live with umpiring mistakes, they are human, after all. A little blind but human nonetheless. It is that extra element of letting some frees go, plucking the occasional one to open it up again, ignoring throws because they don't want to give 100 frees every game etc etc that leads to frustration.
Of course, none of the above applies to the NBA. That is just about letting the superstars show off. I'm still chuckling over De Andre whatshisname getting indignant at a travel call when he took at least three steps so he could set up a slam dunk and Andrew Gaze bemoaning that "that would never be called in the NBA."
I'm talking about real Basketball, like at the Olympics.
TOT70 said:
Fair enough, I'm not a basketball person. Perception was based on the reactions of the commentators, players and coach.
Was wondering during the game whether there are international differences in rule interpretations, and how the players cope. Can remember watching the SANFL grand final a week after ours in 1980... it seemed almost like a different sport.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
It was a really harsh call, no doubt, mainly because it was so late in the game. I used to coach my kids' junior teams and I would always coach them to look for contact when they were driving towards the basket and the defender was moving with them. It is an instant foul and free throws every time.
As for international differences, it is mainly the NBA that has its "own" rules. Any thing goes when a slam dunk is in the offing. Sometimes NBA players look so lazy bringing the ball down the court that I wonder why they don't just play street-style and only use half the court. I much prefer what we saw at the Olympics. It is nowhere near as spectacular but it is a much purer version of the sport. The women's game is usually better too. Not so many players are tall enough to slam dunk so they end up constructing more genuine plays.
TOT70 said:
Yeah. My American friend much prefer college basketball to the NBA as well. He's a big Tar Heels fan - reckons they play way too many games in the NBA, the rules are bastardised and the emphasis is more on bling and razzle dazzle... College ball is simpler, cleaner, more true to the spirit of the game.
spook said:
We're probably all guilty, you included, of posts that could be described that way. Fact is you didn't answer the questions. They were rhetorical anyway. I doubt anyone here, and the lack of comment supports it, would like their partner, relations, parents or friends discussed publicly as an object for someone's sexual fantasies. Your comments were pretty ordinary and I salute skybeau for highlighting that.
Well, I couldn't disagree more. There were plenty of posts supporting me, actually. I think you and skybeau are going out of your way to be offended. Not all women are victims, rosy. I find your Victorian puritanical views naive and completely ignorant of the FACT that humans, men and women, boys and girls, are sexual creatures and discuss each other's suitability as sexual partners all the time.rosy3 said:
There were no sexual fantasies discussed, merely comment on attractiveness. I find your assertions to the contrary as offensive as they are idiotic.
Your questions were insulting, nasty, *smile* and I gave them all the attention they deserved.
