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MB78 said:
If most people are getting a fair go and the economy is benifiting as a result there is more opportunity for everyone to build wealth, earn decent yields on investments and look after the most in need as we will be all paying more tax with our increased wealth.

Show me any government policy that will benifiting everyone? Always losers and winners.
Well I guess my point is that when you say a fair go, that is a question that entirely depends on the person answering it. Why do you feel qualified to answer it?

Basically what you are claiming is that weakening the dollar to $0.80 will increase our wealth. The way the central bank does this is to increase the money supply, I.e. Printing money. So apparently printing money increases our wealth! Call me nuts, but to counter that argument seems unnecessary. The blatant nonsense of it should be enough to convince most people (central bankers and mainstream economists excluded).
 
Giardiasis said:
Well I guess my point is that when you say a fair go, that is a question that entirely depends on the person answering it. Why do you feel qualified to answer it?

Basically what you are claiming is that weakening the dollar to $0.80 will increase our wealth. The way the central bank does this is to increase the money supply, I.e. Printing money. So apparently printing money increases our wealth! Call me nuts, but to counter that argument seems unnecessary. The blatant nonsense of it should be enough to convince most people (central bankers and mainstream economists excluded).

I'm no more qualified than anyone else who gives an opinion on this thread.

But I think this bloke is:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-22/glenn-stevens-jawboning-moves-currency-markets/5111212

I know you don't.

I want to support jobs in rural Australia as that's where I live and having a lower $ will assist the export industries and manufacturing no doubt. If there is sound employment prospects that is giving most people a fair go.
 
tigertim said:
How come?
Because he is head of the organisation that has caused and continues to cause massive distortions of the allocation of capital in our economy. The RBAs monopoly of printing money and control of monetary policy makes it very difficult for entrepreneurs to perform the economic calculation of where savings need to be invested in order to meet the demands of the individuals within the economy. Hence this is one of the primary causes of the huge booms and busts our economy experiences.
 
Giardiasis said:
Because he is head of the organisation that has caused and continues to cause massive distortions of the allocation of capital in our economy. The RBAs monopoly of printing money and control of monetary policy makes it very difficult for entrepreneurs to perform the economic calculation of where savings need to be invested in order to meet the demands of the individuals within the economy. Hence this is one of the primary causes of the huge booms and busts our economy experiences.

Him personally Gia, or the position he holds?
 
willo said:
Do you think other heads of the RBA would act differently then?
Differently perhaps, but they would still fail to do any good. Artificially determining the time preference of money is impossible. The only way the economic calculation of interest rates can be performed is under a free market. All price controls distort the market.
 
Giardiasis said:
Differently perhaps, but they would still fail to do any good. Artificially determining the time preference of money is impossible. The only way the economic calculation of interest rates can be performed is under a free market. All price controls distort the market.

You speak of the market as though it is natural phenomena that has a natural state. The whole thing is a game. Curious Gia how would you change things to correct for what you see as distortions?
 
Wow, shortest honeymoon ever for the new Liberal government with Labor already ahead on the 2 party-prefered in the latest Neilsen poll. A new record for a federal opposition, no wonder Livers is nowhere to be seen.

http://www.news.com.au/national/coalitions-shock-as-labor-pulls-ahead-in-nielson-poll/story-fncynjr2-1226767573354

This confirms the theory that the electorate dumped Labor rather than electing the Coalition... Labor suffered a 4% swing away during the election but about half of this went to small parties and independents rather than to the Libs. It looks like the electorate is willing to forgive and forget the ALP's sins given they have a new leader and while the Libs lurch from one stuff-up to the next.
 
I think there is also a realization that Abbott is Abbott. He didn't miraculously transform into a person fit to lead our country.

The Libs, for their own sake and the sake of the country, need to find a replacement for Abbott ASAP.
 
antman said:
Wow, shortest honeymoon ever for the new Liberal government with Labor already ahead on the 2 party-prefered in the latest Neilsen poll. A new record for a federal opposition, no wonder Livers is nowhere to be seen.

http://www.news.com.au/national/coalitions-shock-as-labor-pulls-ahead-in-nielson-poll/story-fncynjr2-1226767573354

This confirms the theory that the electorate dumped Labor rather than electing the Coalition... Labor suffered a 4% swing away during the election but about half of this went to small parties and independents rather than to the Libs. It looks like the electorate is willing to forgive and forget the ALP's sins given they have a new leader and while the Libs lurch from one stuff-up to the next.

But has Labor learnt it's lesson. Granted Rudd going will help, but it still has an identity crisis. Shorten seems to be handling opposition leader at least.
 
Baloo said:
I think there is also a realization that Abbott is Abbott. He didn't miraculously transform into a person fit to lead our country.

The Libs, for their own sake and the sake of the country, need to find a replacement for Abbott ASAP.
Then how come Abbott leads Shorten 49-41 as preferred PM?
 
antman said:
Wow, shortest honeymoon ever for the new Liberal government with Labor already ahead on the 2 party-prefered in the latest Neilsen poll. A new record for a federal opposition, no wonder Livers is nowhere to be seen.

http://www.news.com.au/national/coalitions-shock-as-labor-pulls-ahead-in-nielson-poll/story-fncynjr2-1226767573354

This confirms the theory that the electorate dumped Labor rather than electing the Coalition... Labor suffered a 4% swing away during the election but about half of this went to small parties and independents rather than to the Libs. It looks like the electorate is willing to forgive and forget the ALP's sins given they have a new leader and while the Libs lurch from one stuff-up to the next.

About to have an election are we? ;)
 
tigertim said:
Then how come Abbott leads Shorten 49-41 as preferred PM?

not to particularly reference the two current leaders, but the current PM usually leads the preferred PM question.