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Talking Politics
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KnightersRevenge said:
The irony of all this is that the hung parliament delivered something reasonably close to a functioning democracy. The fact that swathes of legislation got rubber stamped speaks volumes, the independents kept everyone on their toes but avoided the shock & awe stupidity of PUP and other crackhead senators. Now it appears to be a case of chronic foot in mouth disease, Team Tony is looking more like Team Dummy with each passing moment.
KnightersRevenge said:
Vote for the Sex Party. I look at it as we are going to get screwed by politicians anyway, so it might as well be them ;D
KnightersRevenge said:
I would be interested in people's thoughts on giving the Australian Democrats another crack. Can they get back to any form of relevance? Will their value proposition stand up a decade after they sailed their boat out to see; shot themselves, dangled a dog in the water and then set the boat on fire?
I recon they were my party of choice 'back in the day', but now...?
Legends of 1980 said:
They bring you down to their level and then beat the others through experience? ;D
K3 said:
Don't know Kube. A genuine liberal democratic party as opposed to the neo-con version using the title in NSW perhaps? Malcolm Turnbull to start it off?
KnightersRevenge said:
Yeah that would be alright to mate, but would be a hard thing to 'brand' as to be separate from the neo-con Liberals. Good start though!
Wonder why ol' Malcolm just sits back, stuck in the brain vacuum that is the current Libs?
KnightersRevenge said:
I disagree wholeheartedly; but nevertheless, take a look at their policies...
If you click on the damn link you will see them :brickwallKnightersRevenge said:
(some of them are actually 3-words :theyareontome)
OK, ready:KnightersRevenge said:I did click on it, but then I got bored.
Short attention span, me.
Science = good.
Houses = good.
Health = good.
Public ownership of stuff = good.
Monopolies = bad.
Influential miners = bad.
Secret donations = bad.
Climate change = bad.
Immigration = OK.
Australians owning Australian land = good.
Australian citizenships for sale = bad.
Female education = good. (read Congo, Afghanistan and other places with war, poverty, limited opportunities for females and subsequently massive population growth)
Foreign aid = good.
Infrastructure = good.
Moreover, model of endless population growth = bad.
As a great band once said, "a species set on endless growth is unsustainable."
P.S. I admit they could have chosen a better name for their party.
'A stressful period of my life': no killer blow as Julia Gillard revisits her past
September 10, 2014 - 6:36PM
Jacqueline Maley
Julia Gillard let the royal commission know early on who it was dealing with. Asked to state her occupation, she said there was "a list".
"I am of course a former prime minister. I am an author. I am the chair of the Global Partnership for Education. I am a non-resident distinguished senior fellow at the Brookings Institute in Washington. I am honorary professor at the University of Adelaide."
It was a refresher course in Gillard at her best. Her famous grasp of detail was there. Her legal brain was there. Her dry wit was there, as was her hauteur and her predilection for sarcastic understatement.
Gillard was crisp in a white jacket and black shirt, discreet drop-earrings and her glasses. She did not appear to lose focus and she never lost her cool.
We waded through incorporation documents and photocopied cheques, scribbled notes and acres of transcript from Gillard's exit interview when she left Slater and Gordon, under something of a cloud, in 1995.
Gillard said she wished she had a "time machine" to change a few things. But basically she said what she has always said: she was given instructions to set up an entity called the AWU Workplace Reform Association.ion of her then-boyfriend, AWU secretary Bruce Wilson, and his allies. She knew nothing about its funds being misappropriated later.
After lunch, counsel assisting moved onto the subject of Gillard's own renovations on her home in Abbotsford, Melbourne. It has been alleged that some of those renovations were paid for in cash which came from the dodgy slush fund.
Gillard has always said she paid for all her own renovations, with cheques. She did not veer from that.
At times we were reminded that while these events from the 1990s have since taken on great political significance, this was Gillard's actual life.
It covers a year or so in which she was deceived by what can only be described as a thorough stinker of a boyfriend (and there is no positive evidence that she knew anything of his alleged corrupt conduct). She had a stressful full renovation of her house, and as a result of these two things, departed her job in what was not quite a sacking, but was near enough to it.
"It was obviously during what was a stressful period in my life," she said towards the end of questioning.
Sometimes it felt like counsel assisting was grasping at straws. At one point Gillard was asked if she remembered going out to dinner on a particular night in 1993. There was also a long argument about the difference between invoices and receipts. At no point did it seem a killer blow had been landed.
Gillard was excused at about 3.30pm. She was given a few minutes' grace to leave privately before the rest of the room could depart.
By a quarter to four it seemed, after nearly 25 years, to be over.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/a-stressful-period-of-my-life-no-killer-blow-as-julia-gillard-revisits-her-past-20140910-10f335.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn%3Atwi-13omn1677-edtrl-other%3Annn-17%2F02%2F2014-edtrs_socialshare-all-nnn-nnn-vars-o%26sa%3DD%26usg%3DALhdy28zsr6qiq
What a joke from Abbott. No doubt this whole expensive sham of a commission was set up to extract revenge on Gillard.
As expected non of it stuck. I really miss her from politics. Seemed to be one with a shred of decency.
September 10, 2014 - 6:36PM
Jacqueline Maley
Julia Gillard let the royal commission know early on who it was dealing with. Asked to state her occupation, she said there was "a list".
"I am of course a former prime minister. I am an author. I am the chair of the Global Partnership for Education. I am a non-resident distinguished senior fellow at the Brookings Institute in Washington. I am honorary professor at the University of Adelaide."
It was a refresher course in Gillard at her best. Her famous grasp of detail was there. Her legal brain was there. Her dry wit was there, as was her hauteur and her predilection for sarcastic understatement.
Gillard was crisp in a white jacket and black shirt, discreet drop-earrings and her glasses. She did not appear to lose focus and she never lost her cool.
We waded through incorporation documents and photocopied cheques, scribbled notes and acres of transcript from Gillard's exit interview when she left Slater and Gordon, under something of a cloud, in 1995.
Gillard said she wished she had a "time machine" to change a few things. But basically she said what she has always said: she was given instructions to set up an entity called the AWU Workplace Reform Association.ion of her then-boyfriend, AWU secretary Bruce Wilson, and his allies. She knew nothing about its funds being misappropriated later.
After lunch, counsel assisting moved onto the subject of Gillard's own renovations on her home in Abbotsford, Melbourne. It has been alleged that some of those renovations were paid for in cash which came from the dodgy slush fund.
Gillard has always said she paid for all her own renovations, with cheques. She did not veer from that.
At times we were reminded that while these events from the 1990s have since taken on great political significance, this was Gillard's actual life.
It covers a year or so in which she was deceived by what can only be described as a thorough stinker of a boyfriend (and there is no positive evidence that she knew anything of his alleged corrupt conduct). She had a stressful full renovation of her house, and as a result of these two things, departed her job in what was not quite a sacking, but was near enough to it.
"It was obviously during what was a stressful period in my life," she said towards the end of questioning.
Sometimes it felt like counsel assisting was grasping at straws. At one point Gillard was asked if she remembered going out to dinner on a particular night in 1993. There was also a long argument about the difference between invoices and receipts. At no point did it seem a killer blow had been landed.
Gillard was excused at about 3.30pm. She was given a few minutes' grace to leave privately before the rest of the room could depart.
By a quarter to four it seemed, after nearly 25 years, to be over.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/a-stressful-period-of-my-life-no-killer-blow-as-julia-gillard-revisits-her-past-20140910-10f335.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn%3Atwi-13omn1677-edtrl-other%3Annn-17%2F02%2F2014-edtrs_socialshare-all-nnn-nnn-vars-o%26sa%3DD%26usg%3DALhdy28zsr6qiq
What a joke from Abbott. No doubt this whole expensive sham of a commission was set up to extract revenge on Gillard.
As expected non of it stuck. I really miss her from politics. Seemed to be one with a shred of decency.
tigertim said:
Gotta disagree here mate. I recon this aspect was 100% witch hunt. It also shows Abbott, and Co's, form on such things eg Sacking Bracks and appointing a Lib favourite for his position o/s. Man, there really are a huge number of petty things this government has done that just *smile* me.