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Tones really has no idea, we've gone from a Greek style meltdown to some bogan slogan 'have a go' taxcuts. The comedy show just gets better.
 
Giardiasis said:
The logic to me is that we will have to spend a lot of money to institute a change that delivers next to nothing. If we are going to spend money on such a venture, we might as well do something useful like disband the federation.
You mean get rid of the states ? If that is what you mean then I am 100% behind you, to me the only thing states are good for is sheffield shield cricket and state of origin.

I recall someone in Treasury quoting a number of what the estimate is that the state system costs us p.a. It is a staggering number from memory, many billions.

Won't happen unfortunately but it's a nice thought.
 
Sintiger said:
You mean get rid of the states ? If that is what you mean then I am 100% behind you, to me the only thing states are good for is sheffield shield cricket and state of origin.

I recall someone in Treasury quoting a number of what the estimate is that the state system costs us p.a. It is a staggering number from memory, many billions.

Won't happen unfortunately but it's a nice thought.
No I meant the opposite, get rid of the Australian government.
 
Giardiasis said:
No I meant the opposite, get rid of the Australian government.

Let's go for getting rid of both state and federal and keep local.. I'd have a shot at becoming the president of Hobson's Bay.
 
antman said:
Let's go for getting rid of both state and federal and keep local.. I'd have a shot at becoming the president of Hobson's Bay.
I would prefer to get rid of local as well. Then we can run the place with lots of neighbourhood watch groups
 
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I actually found a rare piece of decent material from the ABC if anyone is interested. A discussion of views counter to the PC approved socialist agenda of the public broadcaster: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/counterpoint/anarcho-capitalist-libertarianism3a-what-is-it-3f/3782920
 
Giardiasis said:
I actually found a rare piece of decent material from the ABC if anyone is interested. A discussion of views counter to the PC approved socialist agenda of the public broadcaster: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/counterpoint/anarcho-capitalist-libertarianism3a-what-is-it-3f/3782920
I don't read anything from the ABC.

Too biased

Damn those anarcho capitalist libertarians taking over our public broadcaster
 
I like the government by local community.
Being a Daylesford guy, I'll be able to tell the alternative transsexual people how to run their lives.
I reckon Tone might go for this.
 
Australian Border Force to patrol Melbourne CBD as part of anti-social behaviour operation :o :o

Date
August 28, 2015 - 1:31PM

The Australian Border Force is not just keeping unwanted arrivals from reaching our shores – this weekend it will target potential visa fraudsters in the heart of Melbourne.

There is a lot of truth to the saying that there is strength in numbers

For the first time officers from the federal government's new paramilitary unit will join transport officials and police to target crime among people "travelling to, from and around the CBD", in a measure dubbed Operation Fortitude.

Border officials will join those from Metro Trains, Yarra Trams, the Sheriff's Office, Taxi Services Commission and Victoria Police on the streets of Melbourne.

Don Smith, ABF Regional Commander for Victoria and Tasmania, said officers will be positioned "at various locations around the CBD speaking with any individual we cross paths with".

"You need to be aware of the conditions of your visa … if you commit visa fraud you should know it's only a matter of time before you're caught out," he said.

The operation was ridiculed on social media.

Following this, a Department of Immigration and Border Protection spokesman said the ABF "does not and will not stop people at random in the streets".

"ABF officers will assist partner agencies by conducting background visa checks on individuals who are referred to us," the spokesman said, adding the operation was being led by Victoria Police.

The ABF "does not target on the basis of race, religion, or ethnicity", he said.

The operation will be launched at 2pm Friday. At the time of writing, a snap protest to interrupt the launch was being organised on social media.

The ABF began in July and combined Customs and Immigration functions. Officers have more powers than former department officials, including the power to detain offenders, carry guns, and gather intelligence.

During the operation on Friday and Saturday night, ABF officials will conduct "compliance field-work" to promote "a secure and cohesive society" in Melbourne.

Fairfax Media has sought information from the ABF including whether people will be forced to talk to border officials and whether they will target those of foreign appearance.

The ABF has also been asked if the measures will be deployed at other cities across Australia, and why police cannot be tasked with the job.

Border officials will join those from Metro Trains, Yarra Trams, the Sheriff's Office, Taxi Services Commission and Victoria Police.

Mr Smith said the group "will continue to work together on an ongoing basis to target crime in and around the Melbourne CBD to make the city a safer place for everyone".

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten questioned why Operation Fortitude was announced to the media ahead of the blitz, however he said Labor supports efforts to target crime.

"I do hope that any of these actions are done to try and protect Australian laws, to make sure that people are not overstaying their visas, to make sure that temporary guest workers are not being exploited," he said.

Asked if he thought the blitz would damage Melbourne's reputation internationally, he said "No".

As Fairfax Media reported this week, the government spent $10 million on rebranding to create the ABF, including military-style uniforms and thousands of signs at airports and detention centres to create a fresh, hardline image.

Some $6.3 million was spent kitting out 4500 ABF officials with new uniforms, insignia, name badges, buttons and safety helmets.

Victoria Police Transit and Public Safety Command Acting Superintendent Campbell Mill said the group would work "in the best interests of Melbournians [sic]".

"There is a lot of truth to the saying that there is strength in numbers," he said.

"While we are all separate organisations we all have something in common – a responsibility to keep our community safe. In order to do that we need to ensure that people are behaving appropriately."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-border-force-to-patrol-melbourne-cbd-as-part-of-antisocial-behaviour-operation-20150828-gj9qtd.html#ixzz3k50zc2u8
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Giardiasis said:
I actually found a rare piece of decent material from the ABC if anyone is interested. A discussion of views counter to the PC approved socialist agenda of the public broadcaster: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/counterpoint/anarcho-capitalist-libertarianism3a-what-is-it-3f/3782920

Ignore that, it's just a trick so they can pretend to be unbiased LOL
 
Operation fortitude now cancelled:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-28/operation-fortitude-cancelled/6733008

Just when you think they can;t look any more incompetent...........
 
What the hell is wrong with those in charge of Australia when something as racist and plain stupid as this 'Operation Fortitude' can even be mooted?
 
Chiang Mai Tiger said:
What the hell is wrong with those in charge of Australia when something as racist and plain stupid as this 'Operation Fortitude' can even be mooted?

It was another Captain's Pick from our great leader I reckon.

You have to ask, do they even talk to each other about these things before they announce them? Might save some embarrassment.