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The RIP thread

Bernie

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Blair Campbell former Tiger & later Demons player.
Also played cricket for Victoria & Tasmania
Blair Campbell former Tiger & later Demons player.
Also played cricket for Victoria & Tasmania
The first exponent of the "banana kick" as I recall seeing him execute a shot from the boundary on the MCG.

Also was a Reporter for the local, Northcote Leader.
 
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antman

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Not a soccer fan so don't know much about Maradona. Interesting, non-reverential obituary by Will Swanton in the Australian.

Let’s not sugarcoat who Diego really was (paywalled)

None of the obituaries have been reverential. Even in Argentina, although worshipped as a God, everyone knew he was a very flawed man.

Can't read it (paywalled), but I guess Will is writing for people mostly ignorant of Maradona's life and achievements. Anyone who knows anything about football knows Maradona was a tortured genius who took drugs, who was involved with the Camorra, didn't pay his taxes, got caught as a drug cheat, cheated against England in a game where he also scored one of the most brilliant goals ever, represented the "Peronista" side of Argentinian politics. etc etc etc.

I was lucky enough to go to the playoff with Argentina in Sydney 93? and saw him play. Even then at 33 years old he was unstoppable, poor old Paul Wade had his work cut out. And he set up the goal to draw the game. Another game we should have won but that's another story.
 
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mrposhman

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None of the obituaries have been reverential. Even in Argentina, although worshipped as a God, everyone knew he was a very flawed man.

Can't read it (paywalled), but I guess Will is writing for people mostly ignorant of Maradona's life and achievements. Anyone who knows anything about football knows Maradona was a tortured genius who took drugs, who was involved with the Camorra, didn't pay his taxes, got caught as a drug cheat, cheated against England in a game where he also scored one of the most brilliant goals ever, represented the "Peronista" side of Argentinian politics. etc etc etc.

I was lucky enough to go to the playoff with Argentina in Sydney 93? and saw him play. Even then at 33 years old he was unstoppable, poor old Paul Wade had his work cut out. And he set up the goal to draw the game. Another game we should have won but that's another story.

Thats a perfect description of Maradona Antman. As a pom I clearly have strong negative feelings to the cheat (and the fact they he could never admit the clear cheating against England in 86). However, what this leaves him with, is everyone remembers him for the Hand of God goal in that game, but as you say he is not remembered for probably one of the best goals of all time, that goal it was almost as if the ball was glued to his boot.

Clearly a troubled genius, but at his best could easily be described as the best player of all time.
 

antman

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Thats a perfect description of Maradona Antman. As a pom I clearly have strong negative feelings to the cheat (and the fact they he could never admit the clear cheating against England in 86). However, what this leaves him with, is everyone remembers him for the Hand of God goal in that game, but as you say he is not remembered for probably one of the best goals of all time, that goal it was almost as if the ball was glued to his boot.

Clearly a troubled genius, but at his best could easily be described as the best player of all time.
Thanks Posh, but he did admit it in 2006 in a BBC interview!


Only the English and maybe the English speaking world remember him solely for that I would say. I used to play football against South Americans and this is how they play - they are clever, they trick you, they enjoy making you look bad. It's a point of pride with them. Uruguayans are like that too but they are even better at sneaky fouls. For Maradona that was a day at the office, OK, I'll try this, hey the dumbass ref and linesman didn't see it. OK. Move on. For him it was funny, nothing to make a big deal over, the English of course took it seriously for the next 30 years :) - I can understand this, it's like when Australia drew with Iran at the MCG and missed out on qualification (again), it's a national trauma, you never really get over it.
 
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Never understood the angst.
How is it any different to when Martin did the most blatant throw out of a pack to Riewoldt who goaled?
The only difference is that each individual goal in a soccer match is so much more significant than they are in Australian Football.
But that's the fault of the sport, not Maradona.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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Never understood the angst.
How is it any different to when Martin did the most blatant throw out of a pack to Riewoldt who goaled?
The only difference is that each individual goal in a soccer match is so much more significant than they are in Australian Football.
But that's the fault of the sport, not Maradona.
Pretty much what Swanton said in between bashing him. He only had issue with Maradona's description of it.