They did. Even as unpopular and divisive a figure as Hilary got three million more votes than your fascist hero.
Bernie's a commo. Righto. I think a more accurate description was the one putting him "just to the right of Malcolm Turnbull".
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Bernie's a commo. Righto. I think a more accurate description was the one putting him "just to the right of Malcolm Turnbull".
Black man allegedly commits a crime, police try to arrest a black man, and over 8 minutes kill him despite his pleas, and the pleas of onlookers, who were probably scar the same thing would happen to them if they tried to intervene.
People protest that ANOTHER black American has been unjustly killed by a person in power. Protests turn violent. Many use the violence as an excuse to ignore the murder, to ignore the peaceful protests, and to somehow defend the terrible job Trump has done, picking the occasional decent statement while ignoring the rest that incite violence. Accusing those who think Trump is awful of being blinded by bias, while ignoring the fact that Trump turns every issue into a democrat bashing exercise. And they blame the media for peoples perception of Trump ignoring the trash that is Fox news, and the overwhelming evidence of his own words.
George Floyd happened a couple of week after Ahmaud Arbery was killed in a "citizens arrest", that was also caught on film. And these a couple of months after the police killed Breonna Taylor, who was shot 8 times by police after raiding the wrong apartment in an attempted drug bust.
All I can say to you is that, at least to those who I know who work there, that the premise that the World Health Organisation is too close to China is almost laughable. The comment was given to me was that before all this they were told the WHO was too close to the US and under the influence of big Pharma.
A lot of people in the sector think they are too influenced by African countries. The Head of the WHO is an African.
Seems like they change allegiances like I change my socks
Floyd died after a cop had his knee on his neck for 8 minutes. The other cop checked his pulse 6 minutes in - he had none. So the cop kept his brain starved of oxygen for another two minutes after being told he had no pulse.
But sure, he died of "pre-existing conditions"
But sure, he died of "pre-existing conditions"
The autopsy said there was no evidence of asphyxiation. What else do you know?
I'll assume much like your knowledge of America, your understanding of techniques used by cops to subdue criminals is also probably from the same place, your warped mind rather than anywhere else.
I've done police training, when I lived in the UK I trained to be a voluntary police officer and there are plenty of options that do not include holding your knee on someones neck for 8 minutes. To say that this was "rough treatment" is naïve at best and complicit at worst. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Leaving cuffs unlocked is an easy way to subdue someone, the impact of pain and the way that it impacts can generally take the biggest of people down as they will continue to cut into wrists until subdued. I've had it done to me and I can tell you it hurts a lot and almost forcibly makes you go to your knees. Even if they are allowed to use knees (like they do in Minnesota) I highly doubt the training includes retaining that pressure for 8 minutes. The dangers of doing so can be fatal (and were in this instance). Hide behind the technicalities of what he finally died of, if you want to do that then cancer kills very few people and minor ailments kill a lot more as cancer patients technically die of many other things as the thing that finally killed them but it was the cancer that weakened them to that point much like the knee to the back of his neck. You are almost excusing the act by stating that he died because of other conditions regardless of what the cop did.
The other TV pictures (prior to George Floyd going to the cop car) suggest that he was not resisting, there isn't any TV images of when he was taking down so its hard to tell, but frankly this guy was not a murder suspect, he was being arrested for a petty crime. Even if he'd used a counterfeit note, how would they know if he was the counterfeiter or an unfortunate person using said currency that any of us could fall foul to.
I agree that looting is disgraceful but not all of this is looting, there are peaceful protests going on all around but you don't seem to realise what this is all about, its not even really about George Floyd anymore, that was the trigger moment, but ultimately years and years of inaction to try to bridge a racial divide is what it causing this, not only police treatment but economical and social divides.
and as I've stated in the longer post above cancer doesn't kill many people by your logic.
It's a bit like hospitals, dozens of people die every year because they're given the wrong medication or the wrong dose or the doctor makes a mistake. The sheer numbers mean some cases don't go to script and there are errors and tragedies. You can only judge each case on its merits and try to eliminate patterns of process or behaviour that produce tragic results.
I haven't read anything about this case that points to racism on the part of the cop(s). Abuse of procedure - maybe. Cruel and inhuman treatment - looked like it. Manslaughter - maybe. Murder - perhaps. 18 years in the force... you'd think some red flags would've been raised before now if this guy was a problem. It will all come out in the wash.
Easy for us to say it shouldn't happen from the safety of a less violent society.
You're the one claiming America was great until Trump. Stop planting bombs and running away.
Leftist policy isn't as universally popular as you lot appear to think.
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Yeah, if only.
Derek Chauvin: Officer involved in George Floyd death had '17 complaints' filed against him during career
“I’ve seen him in action and I’ve seen him lose it and I’ve called him out on it before"
www.telegraph.co.uk
Bernie's policies were nothing even approaching communism.
Planting bombs and running away? I have other things to do, unlike the guy who writes every second post on here and claims that Trump is a great leader.
America has been in decline for decades, as I've said before Trump is just accelerating the decay. The Declaration of Independence? Great. The constitution? Many problems, but a good first effort. Makes sense in its historical circumstances. The WH, the Congress, the Senate, an independent judicial system? Magnificent. Great conservative institutions.
But in truth American democracy has been a prisoner of Wall Street, lobbyists and the superpacs for thirty years. Its a failed experiment.
Your last line is nonsensical, but your grip on reality seems looser every post.
Yeah, if only.
Derek Chauvin: Officer involved in George Floyd death had '17 complaints' filed against him during career
“I’ve seen him in action and I’ve seen him lose it and I’ve called him out on it before"
- Warren Reyes was shot dead after he pointed a sawn-off shotgun at the police
- Ira Latrell Toles was shot in the abdomen during a struggle in which he tried to grab Chauvin’s gun
- Chauvin was placed on administrative leave after being one of several policemen present when another officer shot Leroy Martinez, who refused to drop his gun
Pardon me for siding with the officers on every count. Dangerous job.
If you lot have all the answers, why do you keep losing elections?
The proof is in the pudding, but you lot prefer to yell "Conspiracy!".
I haven't stood in any elections since I was vice-captain of Thor house in primary school
Good edit to remove that last line, it wasn't great.
