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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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Is this not "the Bartlett" rule. Was this "interpretation" not brought in to stop KB from bouncing the ball just as he was tackled to claim a "holding the man" free kick? It made bouncing it instantly HTB if you were being tackled specifically to stop KB.
When I saw it live on t.v. I thought it was a correct decision and have seen it paid plenty of times before. If you bounce the ball and get even slightly touched its dropping the ball. But what do i know these days as i cant even tell what holding the ball or throwing the ball is anymore.
This is correct. The umpire deemed Rioli had not received the ball back from the bounce when grabbed. That is a free kick. But if Rioli had regained possession before being grabbed he should not have been penalised because he disposed of the ball as soon as being tackled which complies with the below.
17.6.2 Free Kicks - Holding the Ball: Prior Opportunity (a) Where a Player in Possession of the Football has had Prior Opportunity, a Free Kick shall be awarded if that Player does not Correctly Dispose of the football immediately when they are Legally Tackled.
It's simple really.
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Bill James
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This is an issue I raised earlier in the thread. The 2019 rules were changed far more than drastically than everyone realises. It wasn't just 666 and the kickin rule that change. The laws have been very substantially re written.
Case in point. Law 15.2.2 as quoted above no longer exists. Indeed there is no reference to 'running bounce' in the 2019 LAws of Australian Football at all. While I can understand the basis on which a free was paid against Daniel in previous years, there is actually nothing in the 2019 Laws that would prohibit what he did.
If you want to look at how much things have changed I suggest downloading the latest version and comparing it with any previous version you have. The changes are many.
2019 Laws of Australian Football
Makes you wonder why player who have had prior opportunity can be tackled, do a 360 and then dispose of the ball doesn’t get called HTB. That doesn’t really constitute immediate disposal.
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Bill James
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Not so simple actually. Under your interpretation, you assume that because he has not regathered the ball after bouncing it he is deemed to have either
1. incorrectly disposed of the ball, or
2. has not disposed of the ball immediately when legally tackled.
There is nothing in the 2019 AFL rules that supports either assumption. As mentioned above, 'running bounce' is no longer mentioned in the 2019 rules and secondly, there is nothing in the 2019 rules that suggests a player bouncing the ball is afforded less opportunity to break a tackle or dispose of the ball than a player with prior opportunity who is not bouncing the ball.
IMO the Rioli holding the ball was crap all round.
If he had been tackled properly i can understand it, but this decision was paid as if we're playing touch football. If that interpretation is correct, a tackler in that situation would be better off just touching the ball player lightly.
Every interpretation i've seen on tackling , the tackle had to restrict the opponent to be a legitimate tackle.
If he had been tackled properly i can understand it, but this decision was paid as if we're playing touch football. If that interpretation is correct, a tackler in that situation would be better off just touching the ball player lightly.
Every interpretation i've seen on tackling , the tackle had to restrict the opponent to be a legitimate tackle.
Furthermore, now that Brisbane are sooking about umpiring, lets take a good hard look at Stefen Martin when doing around the ground ruck work.
He has a strategy of sticking his elbow straight under the chin of his opponent and pushing upwards, forcing their head back, which makes balance extremely difficult. Watch the replay, he doesn't do this just once, he does this on a very regular basis. Not once did he get penalised.
He has a strategy of sticking his elbow straight under the chin of his opponent and pushing upwards, forcing their head back, which makes balance extremely difficult. Watch the replay, he doesn't do this just once, he does this on a very regular basis. Not once did he get penalised.
Cheers Bill,
I have indeed read the new interpretation, although i had not until today.
I still see the act and the decision as correct. He did not dispose of the ball correctly and was "tackled".
My take is that it is still as clear cut as you can get.
Disagree with the rule but the decision was as per the rules. 17.6.2 decribes the incident perfectly.
Never like sticking up for the green maggots, but yeah I like this strict interpretation. You have a bounce, and someone lays a hand on you, its GONE.
I called Danny GONE in real time.
anyone who chases down a Rioli deserves a kick I reckon.
No, I am not assuming anything of the like. In that case he is still in the action of bouncing the ball whilst being tackled, which is a free kick.
