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Zantuck wins court bid, can sue Richmond for alleged negligence- The age

TigerForce

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I dont understand the full ramifications of this legal ruling.

But it strikes me as being serious. For the club and maybe even the league. Today's ruling seems to open the floodgates for a genuine large $$$ payout by our club - although I am no lawyer.
Neither do I. What evidence is found now compared to before?
 

123cups

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For those who weren't sure, this is not a ruling against Richmond. It just means the case is allowed to be heard at a future date even though 20 years has passed.

The "employee" ruling could have ramifications for other cases in the future, I don't know what it means for us.

Personally, I don't expect any trouble from this. No records, no evidence, and no witnesses.

But if the case develops further, well... concussion recovery is influenced by various lifestyle factors, and that was before modern knowledge about it was available.
 
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bob

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For those who weren't sure, this is not a ruling against Richmond. It just means the case is allowed to be heard at a future date even though 20 years has passed.

The "employee" ruling could have ramifications for other cases in the future, I don't know what it means for us.

Personally, I don't expect any trouble from this. No records, no evidence, and no witnesses.

But if the case develops further, well... concussion recovery is influenced by various lifestyle factors, and that was before modern knowledge about it was available.
Thanks for clarifying cups, much appreciated.
 
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Take Richmond out of it, I hope this results in ending the farce of players being injected and then being allowed to go back out injured. They are not pawns in a chess game and the AFL industry should stop treating them like they are. Expand the benches and then leave them off the ground when they get hurt.
 
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AFL footballers are paid a salary for playing football.

I really don't see how they are not employees, either of their club or of the AFL.

They're not subcontractors, independent contractors or anything else, they are clearly employees.

Can't see how this is a question at all.

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tigerlove

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Wouldn't be surprising if the AFL direct Richmond to settle this out of court.
I would be. The Tigers and the AFL will have lawyers all over this to judge the veracity of the claims and then decide whether to settle or let the case run its course.

I would also think the club would have indemnify insurance against claims like this but only they can say.
 
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Take Zantuck/Richmond out of it - These are the types of results that should go in the players favour.

Anyone see On the Couch this week? The Patrick Bines story was harrowing.

The AFL and Players Association as Jonathan Brown said (and good on him for having the balls to say it)- Were disgraceful in supporting him and made him feel sick.

That should have been all over the media and unpacked on shows like Mince Whateley's.

Far bigger story than going on incessantly about high tackle interpretation.

But as you can imagine by the corrupt, weak media - We get crickets.
 
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EX-TIGER CAUGHT UP IN BOOZE SCANDAL

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Police are investigating alleged inappropriate conduct by former Richmond player Ty Zantuck at an alcohol-fuelled Haileybury College party last weekend after a complaint.
Zantuck is an assistant coach for the first boys’ football team at the prestigious school.
The referral concerns Zantuck’s alleged behaviour towards a teenage girl who was at the private event at which boys, family members, college staff and friends celebrated the boys’ Associated Public Schools premiership.
Mr Zantuck has been stood down by the school.
He did not respond to the Sunday Herald Sun’s inquiries on Saturday and was not present at the team’s match at Geelong College on Saturday.
The Sunday Herald Sun is not suggesting the allegations against Zantuck are true, only that they have been made and warrant investigation by police.
The party led to six Haileybury staff members being disciplined by the school for socialising with students.
Most of the students at the party were underage.
The team’s head coach, Essendon great Matthew Lloyd, who attended for an hour and a half, was also stood down for a few days over his presence at the party, but returned to coaching duties this weekend.
Independent MP Zoe Daniel, whose son is in the Haileybury firsts’ team, was not at the party.
But she said it was “appropriate” for the school to investigate the attendance of staff at a party with students.
Ms Daniel said: “Any allegation of inappropriate behaviour by a male staff member towards a female student should be taken very seriously, and in this case is rightly in the hands of police to investigate.
“The Bloods have had a brilliant season under the leadership of Matthew Lloyd. It’s sad to see their success tarnished by these events,” she said.
A statement from Haileybury issued on Friday said the school “was made aware that on Saturday night, after the APS football game, a group of parents organised an impromptu celebratory gathering with students”.
“The school has moved quickly to discipline those staff members involved and to ensure they uphold their professional obligations concerning social gatherings with parents and students,” it said.
In July last year, Zantuck won a legal bid to sue Richmond Football Club for compensation over debilitating back injuries and a suspected degenerative brain disease in a landmark decision that could pave the way for future claims.
Zantuck, who played 68 games for the Tigers in the early 2000s, claims he was allowed to continue to train and play AFL despite suffering repeated on-field head knocks that had not properly healed.
Haileybury College declined to comment further on Saturday.
Victoria Police were contacted for comment. Zantuck and Lloyd were also contacted for comment.
Despite a tumultuous week, Haileybury won Saturday’s match against Geelong College 13.18 (96) to 4.5 (29), completing a dominant season in which it was undefeated.



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Fighting Fury

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Glossed over him also being a former Ess player...
And that Lloyd was also stood down from his senior coaching role at Haileybury
I guess the Tigers attract more clicks than the druggies...
 
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Glossed over him also being a former Ess player...
And that Lloyd was also stood down from his senior coaching role at Haileybury
I guess the Tigers attract more clicks than the druggies...
Looks like that great Essendon culture Lloyd bragged about to zantuck when he went over there has rubbed off on him :)
 
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Looks like their doctors noticed what we gave him was incorrect but wasn't raised? Not sure how a player is an employee of the club. Makes you wonder what is written in those contracts.
didnt he play for strathmore after the bombers ?