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Coronavirus

Unless the virus mutates into a weaker form, the death count will follow the infection count. It's as simple as that.
I sort of agree LTRTR but there is another factor which is the ability of the health system to cope. When the capacity of the health system is reached and we run out of ICU beds, ventilators and doctors to look after people then the death rate goes up fast.
Let’s hope we don’t get there but the only reason we won’t is if we can ramp up the hospital capacity exponentially in the next 4 weeks and if people stop going to barbecues and the beach
 
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Looks bad in the USA, 86,000 cases, which is about 28 times our number which is now over 3,000. Their population is around 13 times our population. They also seem to have a higher rate of fatalities too.

If Trump re-opens everything, or if they all go off to church at Easter, there will be a disaster. Looks like it is up to the states to take appropriate action.

DS
 
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Crime's gonna increase. Probably even more graffiti.

Already seen some nut heads playing loud music (rap sh!t) on empty trains, feet on seats, asking for money and even saw one this morning lurking around parked cars on the streets checking their wheels.

One d!ckhead even walked around the Southern Cross platform with a smoke!! (Metro zombies obviously asleep)
 
Looks bad in the USA, 86,000 cases, which is about 28 times our number which is now over 3,000. Their population is around 13 times our population. They also seem to have a higher rate of fatalities too.

If Trump re-opens everything, or if they all go off to church at Easter, there will be a disaster. Looks like it is up to the states to take appropriate action.

DS
Mexicans want a wall built
 
Crime's gonna increase. Probably even more graffiti.

Already seen some nut heads playing loud music (rap sh!t) on empty trains, feet on seats, asking for money and even saw one this morning lurking around parked cars on the streets checking their wheels.

One d!ckhead even walked around the Southern Cross platform with a smoke!! (Metro zombies obviously asleep)

I've dug out the Club lock and put it on the car for the first time in ten years. Beats me who'd want to knock off my old ute, but I can't afford to be without it.
 
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Not sure about crime increasing. With so many people at home, and less people on the streets, a smart burglar would probably take a break for a while. But not all burglars are smart! We'll see.

DS
 
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Coronavirus crims: Pandemic to breed new generation of crooks (paywalled)
Amelia Saw
Herlad Sun
March 26, 2020


A new generation of fresh young crims is likely to be the legacy of the coronavirus, if the economy continues to nosedive and a class of long-term unemployed youth emerges.

With economists predicting widespread job losses and less opportunities for those entering the job market, such as school-leavers and graduates, those unable to work may forge criminal careers.

Renowned crime statistician and UNSW professor Dr Don Weatherburn has extensively researched the link between economic deprivation and crime.

“Most of the unemployed are just transitioning between jobs, so it’s not the sudden rise in unemployment that generates trouble, it’s the long-term unemployed,” Dr Weatherburn said.

“When people are unemployed for more than a year they start to lose interest in the job market and get interested in other ways of making money.

“It’s not as if young kids coming out of school are going to start breaking into houses if they don’t get a job within three weeks or six months but as time wears on and you’re getting towards nine, twelve and eighteen months, then you’re really talking about potential for a spike in crime.”

Fraud, drug dealing and shop stealing are three offences that may see increases as long-term unemployed youth find illegal avenues for survival.

Reassuringly, Dr Weatherburn predicts break and enter – an offence which has steadily declined over the past two decades – is unlikely to grow significantly.

Domestic violence is another area experts predict will grow exponentially as couples self-isolate together at home.

COVID-19 could also see schoolchildren lured by criminal pursuits, particularly if Australia opts to close schools for an extended time according to esteemed criminologist at Griffith University, Professor Ross Homel.

“If there’s a prolonged period where children are not at school we know from the research there tends to be an increase in opportunistic offending kids. There’s an old saying, ‘Idle hands are the devil’s handiwork’.”

Although recessions don’t always equate to soaring crime rates, such as during Australia’s Great Depression in the 1930s when the crime rate remained largely unchanged, analysis by the World Economic Forum states that young people who leave school during a recession, when youth unemployment is high, are more likely to engage in crime.

Based on a variety of US and UK data sources, the Forum noted that in the US the average arrest rate for a group entering the labour market in a recession was 10.2 per cent higher than for a similar group entering the workforce at a more buoyant time.

In the UK, the conviction rate for a group entering the labour market during a recession was four per cent higher than those entering the market in a healthier economy.

This new generation of COVID-19 crims are also more likely to stick around in the underworld.

Professor Homel witnessed this first-hand in longitudinal research of kids who regularly engaged in crime.

“If young people don’t get a job and settle down, or they lose their job, there is a tendency for them to go back into their old “profession” (crime). When the legitimate opportunities dry up they resume their own practices,” he said.

Dr Weatherburn concurs, “Crime is sticky, once you get into it and you start making money, it’s hard to get out and that’s doubly so when you get a criminal conviction because once you’ve got a criminal conviction it gets harder to get a job.”
 
Not sure about crime increasing. With so many people at home, and less people on the streets, a smart burglar would probably take a break for a while. But not all burglars are smart! We'll see.

DS

Im not so sure about burglars , but we might see home invasions and definitely looting increasing
 
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High volume but the margins are still thin. C&I margins in power are like $1/MWh. Only in SA are the margins pretty good and that’s thanks to the government’s policy of closing coal plants. FCAS returns have been huge.
 
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Italy and Spain are sad, horribly sad outcomes that dont look like stopping.

And the USA is hurtling towards a same scenario
Reports of cases in Detroit where something like 1 in 4 people live in poverty, and over 120,000 people have no water.
Water shutoff when bills went unpaid.
Think about how to keep healthy and avoid viruses with no water. No hand washing. Scary.
It may be catastrophic in some American cities
 
Case count excluding China (updated 11:30pm)

533,017 cases
24,948 deaths (4.67%)
23,111 severe (4%)
422,596 mild (80%)
62,362 recovered (11%)
 
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Victoria's reported 111 new cases in the past 24 hours (685 total). Up considerably on the past 2 days which had gone slightly backwards. Almost double.

Andrews has now introduced new laws for police to issue on the spot fines for breaking coronavirus social distancing rules.
 
Another cruise ship in trouble off the coast of Panama, 138 infected, 4 dead. Departed March 21. Governments are going to have to pass a law - you cruise, you lose.
 
So like many Australians and people around the world , I’ve become one of unemployed .

Really gutted that I thought that our jobs were considered an ‘essential service’ but that all changed last night.

Two colleagues called me last night and said we have been ‘ stood down’ effective immediately.

How work did this was via email, yes email.

- Not having the decency to meet with staff through the week to discuss the situation , maybe offer some sort of alternatives

- The new term used. Stood down! What does that actually mean? Another word for sacked’?

- Not offering redundancies to save $ but directing us to MyGov website.

-Telling is that if things improve we are valued and we will return to work.

-To access your leave, if you have, accrued Long Service Leave ( which I fall short ) and unpaid leave.

-Gutless , spineless , soulless decision without consultation via email and according to our CEO a difficult decision to make and apologised to the staff that it came to this. A decision which they would have been in the pipeline as no staff were taking their incentive ( take 4 days leave and we will give an extra 1 day)!

- They have kept staff that have been there less than a year, some a few weeks, yet got rid of its most experienced people!All got to do with $ as they would have had to pay these people more so it’s easier to keep them on than us!.

-My Wifes industry is hanging on by a thread so it would be a test of many things to keep us going.

-Third time this has happened. Last time my first marriage ended, lost everything and my second marriage now I thought would bring many people joy but the anger, frustration, resentment I’m feeling at how this occurred through no fault of us Australians & many people around the world who have also lost loved ones to this virus.

-I’m glad that my mum is safe and she is close to me if she needs me. I’ve had to self isolate myself from her because I couldn’t trust others at work, shopping centres doing the right thing.

-I’m fortunate I have a gym set up at home that I can exercise as I will have more time on my hands. I will become a full time chauffeur for my wife taking her and picking her up from work.

-I’m deciding whether I should email the CEO and let my feelings on behalf of many 100’s of staff who lost their jobs, have bills to pay, mouths to feed who just got treated so poorly. Maybe he and his fat mates at head office could do the right thing like many out there have done and take a pay cuts. Doubt they will.

If you hear a crazy guy on 3AW this week it’s crazy me!

-Got sick when my first marriage collapsed and lost it all.Took out all my super last time and it has taken me many many years to build that up and now I’m faced to do it again to take care of my family .

-There are people worse off than me. Sure is! There are staff close to retirement who are stuffed now.


Waiting over and out !

THANK YOU CHINA
 
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