U.S Presidential Election

[AngryAnt]

Yeah the police are the enemy.

Strange, I didn't write that.

Chalk up another vote for anarchy.

Didn't write that either. Try again Lee

 

[AngryAnt]

“It’s very important that we have peaceful protesters and support the rights for peaceful protesters,” Trump said. “We can’t allow a situation like what happened in Minneapolis to descend further into lawless anarchy and chaos, and we understand that very well."

Here's the peaceful protest about police killing black and minorities way back.

Trump lashed out at football stars refusing to stand for the anthem, calling them “disgraceful” and saying anyone who took a knee was a “son of a b****”.

 

[tigerdell]

Maybe the agitated can be placated by executing the cop without trial? Who needs laws and courts when the mob speaks loudest?

Says the person who advocates killing protesters and buying bullets for govt killings without trial.
Sorry L2 but a democracy is built on the rule of law. The judicial process must be followed.
It is blatant hypocracy to support ex-judicial killing.
Violence including the rioting is inexcusable.
So is a president threatening to kill citizens without trial

 

[Baloo]

Yeah the police are the enemy.

Chalk up another vote for anarchy.

It's very very rare that a policeman is found guilty in the states. Very rare.

What's interesting though is this flared up in Minneapolis. Same place where they recently actually found a policeman guilty for 3rd degree murder and 2nd degree manslaughter. The policeman killed Australian Justine Ruszczyk.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

It's very very rare that a policeman is found guilty in the states. Very rare.

What's interesting though is this flared up in Minneapolis. Same place where they recently actually found a policeman guilty for 3rd degree murder and 2nd degree manslaughter. The policeman killed Australian Justine Ruszczyk.

A riot-free conviction. I think the same prosecutor has been appointed.

 

[tigerdell]

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Kaepernick's gesture was unpatriotic and *smile*. I'd hope any Richmond player doing such a thing is shamed and discredited.


You're justifying the inexcusable. Are they man or beast?

It's your value judgement when a grown man kneeled for a song. His personal decision, based on personal liberties.

Regardless of how you feel about it, there is no denying that it was peaceful. Talking about patriotism is misleading.
Trump abused the people protesting peacefully. It happened repeatedly for many other legal and peaceful protests.
So trumps claim that he supports peaceful protests is bulldust.

And no I am not justifying violence.
The riots are unconscionable and people should be dealt with by the law. Not by shooting.
I am very glad it doesn't happen in Australia

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

It's your value judgement when a grown man kneeled for a song. His personal decision, based on personal liberties.

Regardless of how you feel about it, there is no denying that it was peaceful. Talking about patriotism is misleading.
Trump abused the people protesting peacefully. It happened repeatedly for many other legal and peaceful protests.
So trumps claim that he supports peaceful protests is bulldust.

And no I am not justifying violence.
The riots are unconscionable and people should be dealt with by the law. Not by shooting.
I am very glad it doesn't happen in Australia

Sure, it's just my opinion. I can say it and I can post it without it being a crime and without getting killed for it. People biting the hand that feeds them are massive hypocrites. Highly-paid sportspeople and celebrities more than most.

No government enjoys protests. So yes, it's bulldust.

Don't put it past us. We have our share of agitators, and the generous financial safety net is all that is holding the thin veneer of civilisation together. We'll see what happens when it's removed.

 

[mrposhman]

"I understand the pain that people are feeling. We support the right of peaceful protesters, and we hear their pleas. But what we are now seeing on the streets of our cities has nothing to do with justice or with peace.

The memory of George Floyd is being dishonoured by rioters, looters, and anarchists. The violence and vandalism is being led by Antifa and other radical left-wing groups who are terrorising the innocent, destroying jobs, hurting businesses, and burning down buildings."

I'm not sure how much more statesmanlike he can be. And if the underlined word gets an appropriate response, so be it.

I'll give Trump his dues, that was an excellent statement, almost as If it was written for him. The comments that he's been spouting since, rhetoric like "when the looting starts, the shooting starts", statements around "crushing the violent protests" etc are all very antagonistic. This situation needs no further ammunition for the fire, its already a hot enough situation. They need a leader to de-escalate the situation, not further antagonise and threaten.

It won't take a lot for this type of situation to over escalate, all they need is a protester to open fire on the cops, and all hell will break loose and we will see how far Trump wants to go in order to "crush" them.

 

[Baloo]

It won't take a lot for this type of situation to over escalate, all they need is a protester to open fire on the cops, and all hell will break loose and we will see how far Trump wants to go in order to "crush" them.

What is more concerning is the reports that militia groups like the Three Percenters have made their way to Minneapolis with the intent to keep escalating the violence. If these gun toting far right nut jobs get involved I shudder to think whats going to happen.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

It won't take a lot for this type of situation to over escalate, all they need is a protester to open fire on the cops, and all hell will break loose and we will see how far Trump wants to go in order to "crush" them.

It's much like the bushfires here - the states have jurisdiction and the feds won't interfere unless they're asked to.

 

[Brodders17]

i think the riots cause people to lose sight of the original issue (and that most protests are peaceful). again a cop in the US killed a black man for no reason.
i get that cops in the US have a reason to be tense- guns are everywhere- and possibly shoot to quickly at times in tense situations. this killing was not that. it was another clear example white people in power in America having no regard for the life of black Americans. everyone should be able to see why people get angry.

 

[Brodders17]

"I understand the pain that people are feeling. We support the right of peaceful protesters, and we hear their pleas. But what we are now seeing on the streets of our cities has nothing to do with justice or with peace.

The memory of George Floyd is being dishonoured by rioters, looters, and anarchists. The violence and vandalism is being led by Antifa and other radical left-wing groups who are terrorising the innocent, destroying jobs, hurting businesses, and burning down buildings."

I'm not sure how much more statesmanlike he can be. And if the underlined word gets an appropriate response, so be it.

1 statement- alongside the rest which encourage violence.
Trump and statesmanlike are 2 words that do not go together, despite the occasional ok statement.

 

[tigerdell]

It's much like the bushfires here - the states have jurisdiction and the feds won't interfere unless they're asked to.

Maybe Trump should go on holidays

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Maybe Trump should go on holidays

Didn't he get cricitised for playing a round of golf recently?

 

[Tigers of Old]

Take it as you want but the group 'Anonymous' just dropped this..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266998570957172736

 

[HR]

we need countries to buy into worldwide public health programs and reporting.
So what does Trump do? He pulls out of the WHO which is the exact opposite to what he should be doing. If he wants a better functioning WHO don’t walk away from it, help reform it and fund it properly.
Of course he doesn’t want that, he wants someone to blame.

Well, lets just say that the WHO doesn't have the ability to get the buy in needed for your stated Nirvana. The one time this decade they needed cooperation from countries to buy, in look at what happened.
The WHO has shown that "it" has not got the pulling power to do what you suggest it wants, so why keep funding it?
BTW China dont give a *smile* about what you want them to do do mate. Never have never will.
Funding should be able to be directed towards what the funding is supported by, its a voluntary contribution that has failed in a big way. Waste of cash.

 

[HR]

Better safety net, minority groups are smaller, unarmed populace. The answer is probably very complex.

L2, if you believe we are all rasict its not complex at all. The fact is that in the majority we are not thats why it doesnt happen here.

 

[HR]

Weapons research? Really? You're going to hold that line as well? The only people to claim that, without any evidence, are Trump, Fox and the rest of the MAGA idiots.

You denying it baloo? Got the evidence i spose.
Go have a chat with China's neighbours and even their own people old mate, defend them if you like.
The Chinese are like us, just people, problem is they are run by criminal dictators.

 

[mrposhman]

L2, if you believe we are all rasict its not complex at all. The fact is that in the majority we are not thats why it doesnt happen here.

Correct, people say Aussies are racist, and whilst there are some elements, we are complete saints compared to the US.

When there are areas in US cities when as tourists you are told not to venture either after dark or at all if you are white, then that goes to show that. Imagine that in Australia, a white person cannot go into Springvale for Yum Cha etc as its too dangerous. Its unheard of here.

 

[tigerdell]

Sure, it's just my opinion. I can say it and I can post it without it being a crime and without getting killed for it. People biting the hand that feeds them are massive hypocrites. Highly-paid sportspeople and celebrities more than most.

No government enjoys protests. So yes, it's bulldust.

Don't put it past us. We have our share of agitators, and the generous financial safety net is all that is holding the thin veneer of civilisation together. We'll see what happens when it's removed.

It's your opinion, and I don't have anything again

Sure, it's just my opinion. I can say it and I can post it without it being a crime and without getting killed for it. People biting the hand that feeds them are massive hypocrites. Highly-paid sportspeople and celebrities more than most.

No government enjoys protests. So yes, it's bulldust.

Don't put it past us. We have our share of agitators, and the generous financial safety net is all that is holding the thin veneer of civilisation together. We'll see what happens when it's removed.

It's your opinion and I don't have anything against you expressing it.

You can call it hypocritical, but it was peaceful. And Trump as president his response was to criticise and abuse. It's a bully tactic, and dishonest to say he supports peaceful protests.

And maybe you are right that Australia may be close to rioting and extreme levels of violence sparked by social inequality and disharmony.
A great reason to promote redress for past racial-based crimes and government policy.
Let's address these issues before we end up in riots.
Good idea!