Coronavirus

[Tigers of Old]

Yes just want the truth and accountability. It goes for the lot of them.

The longer this virus goes on MB, the more forgiving I become of early errors by ALL our leaders.
Mainly because no human on this planet has every been through any comparable situation & scientists are only still learning about this virus.
Here we are wondering how security guards got infected & spread the virus, yet health care workers in head to toe PPE are getting infected by the truckload too.
There's so much frustration & anger out there which is understandable because lives are being affected but we also need to show sympathy & patience to those leaders that are fighting this war. It's easy to throw stones but it's much harder to solve problems.
From Morrison to Andrews & others they need support, not scorn on this issue. All are no doubt doing their absolute best to read from a rule book that hasn't been written.

 

[Baloo]

Haven't seen it but understandable given it's state v feds in the blame game. There are too many inquiries into that one for the truth not to come out.

Federal officials shielded from Ruby Princess inquiry

Prime Minister Scott Morrison insists his government is co-operating with the Ruby Princess inquiry despite rejecting requests for border officials to appear.

www.smh.com.au

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Federal officials shielded from Ruby Princess inquiry

Prime Minister Scott Morrison insists his government is co-operating with the Ruby Princess inquiry despite rejecting requests for border officials to appear.

www.smh.com.au

Someone said Fairfax had died and gone to lefty heaven?

At face value it’s reprehensible and there’s no reason for admin staff to be protected from answering questions (except maybe the separate homicide investigation). I don’t know what to believe but it’s essential that everyone knows what went wrong. I wonder what the missing pieces are between the federal official not completing a checklist and permission being given to disembark? Have read elsewhere that Border Force does not provide health clearance to enter Australia.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

The confusion appears to be that someone received a report titled ‘Lab form for coronavirus testing from a cruise ship’ which stated 13 sick passengers had tested negative to flu. Misinterpretation of the report led to a verbal/non-formal authorisation for passengers to disembark. A clusterfuck.

Why these passengers weren’t actually tested for CV is a separate question.

There have been previous tearful admissions by NSW Health staff to this same inquiry that, in the same position again, they would do things very differently. Federal staff should face the music.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Russia announced it has developed a vaccine that will enter production next month, but authorities elsewhere are urging caution about the claims.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

4 new cases in New Zealand. All from the same family.

I hope they can contain it. Just goes to show you can never think you have this defeated.

No overseas travel and it’s a mystery as to where they got it. Auckland back to Stage 3 lockdown, complete with panic buying.

 

[Tigers of Old]

No overseas travel and it’s a mystery as to where they got it. Auckland back to Stage 3 lockdown, complete with panic buying.

I wonder if it came in on an overseas delivery? They still don’t know for certain how long the virus stays on surfaces. Pretty concerning that you can virtually eradicate it as NZ appeared to have done & then it randomly tears it’s head again.

 

[Midsy]

No overseas travel and it’s a mystery as to where they got it.

Someone in the family is telling porkies.

 

[Sintiger]

The longer this virus goes on MB, the more forgiving I become of early errors by ALL our leaders.
Mainly because no human on this planet has every been through any comparable situation & scientists are only still learning about this virus.
Here we are wondering how security guards got infected & spread the virus, yet health care workers in head to toe PPE are getting infected by the truckload too.
There's so much frustration & anger out there which is understandable because lives are being affected but we also need to show sympathy & patience to those leaders that are fighting this war. It's easy to throw stones but it's much harder to solve problems.
From Morrison to Andrews & others they need support, not scorn on this issue. All are no doubt doing their absolute best to read from a rule book that hasn't been written.

Great post
There isn't one person who has been involved in this response who has wanted to make a mistake. There are a very large number of people who we will never hear about who have worked ridiculous hours for months now doing the best they can.
Personally I am very forgiving of those who made mistakes, especially in the first couple of months.
But as soon as any politician of any persuasion starts trying to score political points in this I tune out

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

I wonder if it came in on an overseas delivery? They still don’t know for certain how long the virus stays on surfaces. Pretty concerning that you can virtually eradicate it as NZ appeared to have done & then it randomly tears it’s head again.

Got tested yesterday after developing symptoms but still don't think I have it as I haven't been out - literally the only way I could've got it is via food or parcel delivery (have had quite a few of both).

 

[eZyT]

I wonder if it came in on an overseas delivery? They still don’t know for certain how long the virus stays on surfaces. Pretty concerning that you can virtually eradicate it as NZ appeared to have done & then it randomly tears it’s head again.

that was my first thought too.

a fast delivery from florida or something?

its a bit of a game changer

 

[Ridley]

Russia announced it has developed a vaccine that will enter production next month, but authorities elsewhere are urging caution about the claims.

I’d be cautious about anything coming out of Russia. Putin’s propaganda machine puts to the old Soviet regimes to shame.

 

[eZyT]

I’d be cautious about anything coming out of Russia. Putin’s propaganda machine puts to the old Soviet regimes to shame.

Yep, Its like Stalin on social media

He's been playing the world like a fiddle for the last decade

 

[bigwow]

410 new & 21 deaths in Vic last 24 hours, according to CovidLive,

 

[Althom]

Several symptomatic cases (test results still awaited) resulting from contact with the family in NZ.

 

[tigerman]

Whilst COVID-19 is a terrible virus, it is going to highlight how poorly run a lot of Australia aged care centres are.
Howard and Costello set the wheels in motion when they slashed and burned health, welfare, the public service, tertiary education and Aged care, to name a few.

Two thirds of Australia's COVID-19 deaths are linked to aged care.
Our parents, grandparents, aunties and uncles deserve much much better care.

In the 1996-97 budget, the Howard government slashed $1 billion from aged care funding and introduced its Aged Care Act, claiming that higher fees and bonds would provide the incentive for investors to expand and improve the industry. Instead, conditions in nursing homes deteriorated and average waiting time lengthened significantly.

Under the Act, nursing home operators no longer had to allocate a set proportion of government subsidies to patient care. Links between the level of funding received and the number of qualified staff employed were removed. In 1998 the previous requirement for a registered nurse to be on duty was scrapped.

How John Howard contributed to the aged care crisis - The AIM Network

In 2000, when Bronwyn Bishop was the minister responsible for aged care, a horrific story came to light where residents of an aged care home were subjected to kerosene baths in order to control an outbreak of scabies. Several suffered second-degree burns and blisters. One woman, aged 84, died...

theaimn.com

 

[tigertim]

410 new & 21 deaths in Vic last 24 hours, according to CovidLive,

Bloody hell.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Aged care a real issue...

 

[bigwow]

Bloody hell.

Active cases in Vic appear to have dropped by 3, first drop in a long time, imagine that's in part because of the 21 deaths, but also there must be plenty recovering, and coming out the other side.

 

[IanG]

Hotel quarantine situation just gets murkier, and I note Linda Reynolds press release from yesterday has now been withdrawn:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1293322750174478336