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It's official, Hocking and the AFL are dumb-arsed, half-baked clowns who are trying to stuff the game

eZyT

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D3S touched on the new VFL rule for 2021.

This is the anti-richmond trojan horse and a real arse *smile* for our game.

3 inside the arc and 1 inside the goal square AT STOPPAGES.

This is like a cultural abortion to the game.

Who could possibly think this will 1. Work 2. Be good 3. Be umpirable 4. Be telecastable ?

Did i read this right? Someone needs to stand in the goal square at every ball up?

*smile* me

The only positive i can almost envisage

Is we could see a rush on recruiting the ubiquitous big fat fast dead eyed black fella full forward who is stuffed after running 50m.
 
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mrposhman

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D3S touched on the new VFL rule for 2021.

This is the anti-richmond trojan horse and a real arse *smile* for our game.

3 inside the arc and 1 inside the goal square AT STOPPAGES.

This is like a cultural abortion to the game.

Who could possibly think this will 1. Work 2. Be good 3. Be umpirable 4. Be telecastable ?

Did i read this right? Someone needs to stand in the goal square at every ball up?

*smile* me

The only positive i can almost envisage

Is we could see a rush on recruiting the ubiquitous big fat fast dead eyed black fella full forward who is stuffed after running 50m.

It takes long enough to throw the ball up at a ball up right now, think how long it will take for the controlling umpire (lets say the contest is on the edge of one of the F50's) to try and find out if there are players inside the goal square at the other end of the ground!! Its farcical.
 
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larabee

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D3S touched on the new VFL rule for 2021.

This is the anti-richmond trojan horse and a real arse *smile* for our game.

3 inside the arc and 1 inside the goal square AT STOPPAGES.

This is like a cultural abortion to the game.

Who could possibly think this will 1. Work 2. Be good 3. Be umpirable 4. Be telecastable ?

Did i read this right? Someone needs to stand in the goal square at every ball up?

*smile* me

The only positive i can almost envisage

Is we could see a rush on recruiting the ubiquitous big fat fast dead eyed black fella full forward who is stuffed after running 50m.
I read it also as a player from each team in the goal square at throw ins and KICK OUTS . How the *smile* does that work???
What a *smile* show
 
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mrposhman

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Im bewildered by the changes and a little concerned for the future.

Im bewildered because the AFL seems to think there is any going back to some imagined glory days of the 90's. There isn't. We know that football isn't won playing man on man, we know football is won by controlling space and we know that happens by positioning players in a 0 to 60 meter circle around the ball and carefully picking the moment you break away. As rotations dwindle coaches arent going to revert to old tactics, they are going to get players that run even more, run even faster, run even longer to make the tactics that win continue to work. BTW, in this world there's less and less ability to carry the 'pure' footballer who might be a bit slow or the aging veteran playing good footy but struggles with recovery. They arent playing AFL anymore except perhaps in struggling teams trying to rebuild.

Im concerned because the only way of addressing and correcting the game style we know will always win in the end is to enforce strict and lasting zones netball style and when that happens the very fabric of the game has changed and it simply isn't our game anymore, its another rugby or soccer with stupid offside traps and crappy technical trickery.

I agree, all sports have evolved over the last 30-40 years.

Take a look at tennis, when I was growing up in the 80's and 90's, mens tennis was dominated by big servicing players, and the serve and volley game was dominant. Now the points are taking a lot longer with most players now playing the game predominantly from on or behind the baseline, so what do the tennis authorities do, embrace it, or try to change it to reduce the time taken and get more advertising in. Afterall, points per minute have declined due to the extra time taken to play each point, surely that makes the game worse to watch right?? Nope, the tennis authorities embrace this style and those longer points INCREASE excitement as you see more and more skills of the players.

As I mentioned elsewhere, soccer has also evolved and again the authorities embrace it. I'm not confident that the game is better and more exciting but the authorities are letting the game evolve, albeit whilst they screw up technological advances.

Do the AFL hierachy embrace change. Nope the game evolves and they stamp their feet and go "but it looks different to when I played". Well maybe take a look back and review that it might not all be negative. I think the biggest issue we have right now as others have said, isn't that we need more rules, but we need umpires to make decisions quicker. That will halt the impact of rolling mauls and actually speed the game up, but thats not drastic enough for Shocking or Dill so they focus on changing the game as it is as if its their own play thing. Did they even canvas fans about these changes? My guess is no, they are just too arrogant to think that anyone other than themselves should be involved in decision making.

When you have players openly taking to twitter to force their concern about these changes, you know they probably aren't the right moves to be making.
 
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King Kong

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1. The rotation reduction will help us given our endurance focus - Tick
2. An additional 5 meters space for kick-outs will also help. Short is deadly now. With more time and space he will be more damaging - Tick
3. The restrictions to the person manning the mark I also like. It really annoys me how players are allowed to move meters off the mark to try and force a kick down the line. Just need to make sure the umpires don't get trigger happy or give up on it halfway through the season. I reckon it will encourage players to sag back off the mark now - Tick
4. The VFL rule won't get up. Its a bridge too far for Conservative Gill

The more disappointing thing is they didn't scrap the stupid ruck nomination and protected zone rules and confirm quarters are returning to 20mins. On this basis Shocking remains a nuffy flog.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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The more disappointing thing is they didn't... confirm quarters are returning to 20mins.
It was made to sound very likely in yesterday's reports. It's a non-negotiable for me to continue my current level of support. In the absence of any other voice, I made this clear to the club in the recent members' survey.
 
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Althom

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Saw Hocking on the news last night. He was basically incoherent. Not sure if he'd been on the sauce but it certainly seemed like it.
 
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tommystigers

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It was made to sound very likely in yesterday's reports. It's a non-negotiable for me to continue my current level of support. In the absence of any other voice, I made this clear to the club in the recent members' survey.
I always conclude the members survey with my absolute disdain for the AFL and a request for the club to stand up to their corruption and connivance.

As for poor mans Whiskas, the reasoning for annual changes can be easily understood. Ram your head at high speed into any solid object and you will obtain complete clarity. The more severe the concussion the more aligned with Puss Puss you will be.
 
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TigerPort

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Saw Hocking on the news last night. He was basically incoherent. Not sure if he'd been on the sauce but it certainly seemed like it.
Probably been cracking the champers in celebration of his great ideas
 
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zippadeee

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Agree - Player asks where the mark is. They mark the line. They stand a further 50 cm back from the mark and then they can do what ever they want? Its that screwy really
Spot on.
No player will stand anywhere near the marked line. But further back causing more congestion.
But what do you accept from this crew??
 

fat-fifty-footmad

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1. The rotation reduction will help us given our endurance focus - Tick
2. An additional 5 meters space for kick-outs will also help. Short is deadly now. With more time and space he will be more damaging - Tick
3. The restrictions to the person manning the mark I also like. It really annoys me how players are allowed to move meters off the mark to try and force a kick down the line. Just need to make sure the umpires don't get trigger happy or give up on it halfway through the season. I reckon it will encourage players to sag back off the mark now - Tick
4. The VFL rule won't get up. Its a bridge too far for Conservative Gill

The more disappointing thing is they didn't scrap the stupid ruck nomination and protected zone rules and confirm quarters are returning to 20mins. On this basis Shocking remains a nuffy flog.
Im really unsure about how the manning the mark rule will actually work. My questions?

1. what if no one actually stands the mark? Is that another 50? I mean, if I put no one actually on the mark but run a player up to say three meters in front of it what then?
2. if I cant swap the guy on the mark and the player has been given a 50, does that mean if the player with the ball catches the guy that was on the mark its another 50 automatically because he cant peel away and be replaced?
3. What about other players blocking off that short 45 degree kick? is the protected zone now a box rather than a ring extending out from the man of the mark rather than the player with the ball?

This is one of those areas where it sounds like a simple rule change but I can see its going to generate at least another 5-10 additional if-but-then-maybes down the line.
 
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lamb22

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You get a lot more time and space in suburban footy. And it's not a Dustin Martin moment if there is no one chasing or tackling you.

Another set of stop Richmond rules, probably with the same outcome.
 
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tigertim

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Saw Hocking on the news last night. He was basically incoherent. Not sure if he'd been on the sauce but it certainly seemed like it.
He’s a terrible speaker.
 
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lamb22

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The ACB has brought in new rules to provide for more Allan Border moments.

Maximum speed for fast bowlers capped at 110 km per hour. If bowler transgresses will bowl rest of inning from 15 metres from popping crease ( bowlers end).

Spin bowlers only allowed 2 deliveries an over which may deviate from the perpendicular. If bowler transgresses bowler will be blindfolded and spun around 5 times before each subsequent delivery. Arguments that the ball hit a crack will result in a two match suspension ( pending review by Michael Christian after considering the response on twitter)

ACB to deliberate and advise on length of game ( considering random ballot selection 30 minutes before start of each match)
 
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jb03

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Can you run back 5 metres off the mark and then move laterally?
Yes. But no doubt there will be rule change quickly brought in to counter that which will then in turn create another shitload of problems. If i took a mark at half back and the final siren went and my team trailed by less than a goal, i would tell the umpire i am taking the shot because it is highly the man (or men) on the mark will infringe - think of those after the siren shots where there are 10 opponents on the mark (or just behind the mark) all moving all over the place.
 

eZyT

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Space invaders like Kmac and Marlion will be like gold if you cant hem the switch on the mark
 
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mj72

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Any further stepping back of the mark from the kick in and surely Noah will be able to have a ping at goal?
 
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