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Shame Morrison, shame
"The Robodebt saga is without doubt the most disgraceful failure by the Coalition government since it came to power in 2013. And the failure lands squarely in the lap of the current prime minister.
Scott Morrison was the social services minister when the idea of using automated collections for welfare recipients was initially conceived. He was Treasurer when doing so became a budget imperative to help the bottom line. And Morrison was Prime Minister when the collections were crucial to the surplus he was campaigning on ahead of the 2019 election. Getting the budget “back in black”.
That is why heads won’t roll for the shameful treatment of some of Australia’s most vulnerable citizens. There is no point blaming Stuart Robert, he’s the minister now left to clean up the mess. There’s also no point blaming Christian Porter, the social services minister when Robodebt was rolled out."
He inherited the idea from Morrison and Alan Tudge as the junior minister had primary responsibility for the implementation which was clearly so flawed.
You can’t really blame Tudge either frankly, because he only was a junior minister, at first instance acting on the wishes of his senior cabinet minister, Morrison — initially as social services minister then as treasurer.
Why is Robodebt such a disgrace? Take your pick, there are plethora of reasons. Financially, the settlement has cost taxpayers $1.2bn — the biggest settlement of its kind in Australian history. The waste of taxpayers dollars certainly makes Morrison’s mock outrage at former Australia Post CEO Christine Hollgate signing off on $19,000 worth of watches as bonuses for executives look over the top. Don’t forget he insisted she step down.
READ MORE:Robodebt minister needs to go: Albo|Robo-regrets are just beginning|Robodebt victims to get $1.2bn in compo|Robodebt apology for ‘hurt and harm’|Robodebt was cruel and it must not happen again
Then there are the deaths and mental anguish the Robodebt collections may have caused. To be sure, proving causality is always difficult, but literally hundreds of welfare recipients who incurred Robodebt have taken their own lives.
Many surviving family members have claimed they did so because of the stress of the automated payments they incurred. It makes the outrage from Liberals over the Pink Batts program look over the top when they show no outrage whatsoever over the deaths of these vulnerable Australians.
The Coalition instituted a royal commission into pink batts. Will they do the same for Robodebt? Of course they won’t.
The attempts at a cover-up by the government have also been shameful.
Claims that there was nothing new in the automated payments used via Robodebt. That is completely false. Yes, automated payments are nothing new. Yes, Labor in government also used them. But not on the scale of Robodebt, which is why when it was first conceived the likes of Morrison, Tudge and Porter spruiked it so heavily.
Past usage of automated payments did not exclude human review processes the way Robodebt did. They didn’t target the vulnerable the way Robodebt did. The use of income averaging was done in entirely different policy terms prior to Robodebt, not applied to people who live hand to mouth when receiving payments, thereby unable to pay back money when the system put them over their payment caps.
When it became obvious there were flaws with Robodebt the government Morrison by that time led stuck to its guns, fighting against the rulings, continuing to seek payments from the vulnerable. All because they were campaigning for a political goal: a surplus. The harm done in that process was immense.
Morrison was the chief architect and proponent of this capricious system, and he was the chief beneficiary of it too as it propped up budgets and his “back in black” campaign to win the last election.
Yet he won’t take account for the failures now that they are apparent for all to see. The most he’s offered is a half-baked apology, with workshopped lines thereafter to try and minimise the political fallout.
Robodebt is a scandal that dwarfs all others.
Sports rorts, water buybacks along the Murray Darling River and Angus Taylor’s use of a forged Sydney City Council document pale into insignificance alongside Robodebt and the pain and suffering it has caused.
Yet not a single soul will be held to account, even though the failures go to the very top of this government.
Peter van Onselen is a professor of politics and public policy at the University of Western Australia and Griffith University.
www.theaustralian.com.au
"The Robodebt saga is without doubt the most disgraceful failure by the Coalition government since it came to power in 2013. And the failure lands squarely in the lap of the current prime minister.
Scott Morrison was the social services minister when the idea of using automated collections for welfare recipients was initially conceived. He was Treasurer when doing so became a budget imperative to help the bottom line. And Morrison was Prime Minister when the collections were crucial to the surplus he was campaigning on ahead of the 2019 election. Getting the budget “back in black”.
That is why heads won’t roll for the shameful treatment of some of Australia’s most vulnerable citizens. There is no point blaming Stuart Robert, he’s the minister now left to clean up the mess. There’s also no point blaming Christian Porter, the social services minister when Robodebt was rolled out."
He inherited the idea from Morrison and Alan Tudge as the junior minister had primary responsibility for the implementation which was clearly so flawed.
You can’t really blame Tudge either frankly, because he only was a junior minister, at first instance acting on the wishes of his senior cabinet minister, Morrison — initially as social services minister then as treasurer.
Why is Robodebt such a disgrace? Take your pick, there are plethora of reasons. Financially, the settlement has cost taxpayers $1.2bn — the biggest settlement of its kind in Australian history. The waste of taxpayers dollars certainly makes Morrison’s mock outrage at former Australia Post CEO Christine Hollgate signing off on $19,000 worth of watches as bonuses for executives look over the top. Don’t forget he insisted she step down.
READ MORE:Robodebt minister needs to go: Albo|Robo-regrets are just beginning|Robodebt victims to get $1.2bn in compo|Robodebt apology for ‘hurt and harm’|Robodebt was cruel and it must not happen again
Then there are the deaths and mental anguish the Robodebt collections may have caused. To be sure, proving causality is always difficult, but literally hundreds of welfare recipients who incurred Robodebt have taken their own lives.
Many surviving family members have claimed they did so because of the stress of the automated payments they incurred. It makes the outrage from Liberals over the Pink Batts program look over the top when they show no outrage whatsoever over the deaths of these vulnerable Australians.
The Coalition instituted a royal commission into pink batts. Will they do the same for Robodebt? Of course they won’t.
The attempts at a cover-up by the government have also been shameful.
Claims that there was nothing new in the automated payments used via Robodebt. That is completely false. Yes, automated payments are nothing new. Yes, Labor in government also used them. But not on the scale of Robodebt, which is why when it was first conceived the likes of Morrison, Tudge and Porter spruiked it so heavily.
Past usage of automated payments did not exclude human review processes the way Robodebt did. They didn’t target the vulnerable the way Robodebt did. The use of income averaging was done in entirely different policy terms prior to Robodebt, not applied to people who live hand to mouth when receiving payments, thereby unable to pay back money when the system put them over their payment caps.
When it became obvious there were flaws with Robodebt the government Morrison by that time led stuck to its guns, fighting against the rulings, continuing to seek payments from the vulnerable. All because they were campaigning for a political goal: a surplus. The harm done in that process was immense.
Morrison was the chief architect and proponent of this capricious system, and he was the chief beneficiary of it too as it propped up budgets and his “back in black” campaign to win the last election.
Yet he won’t take account for the failures now that they are apparent for all to see. The most he’s offered is a half-baked apology, with workshopped lines thereafter to try and minimise the political fallout.
Robodebt is a scandal that dwarfs all others.
Sports rorts, water buybacks along the Murray Darling River and Angus Taylor’s use of a forged Sydney City Council document pale into insignificance alongside Robodebt and the pain and suffering it has caused.
Yet not a single soul will be held to account, even though the failures go to the very top of this government.
Peter van Onselen is a professor of politics and public policy at the University of Western Australia and Griffith University.
NoCookies | The Australian
The only real comments i have seen from the gov were that they hope the payout goes to the people who this Commonwealth (not Liberal party) scheme affected, and doesnt all get taken by lawyers.
*smile* they really a pack of grubs.
Absolutely heartless, and also incredibly wasteful with money. why would anyone vote for them?? Tax cuts is all they have.
*smile* they really a pack of grubs.
Absolutely heartless, and also incredibly wasteful with money. why would anyone vote for them?? Tax cuts is all they have.
#ScottyFromPhotoOps
Collect the set!
The man has uncanny timing, running away on a completely unnecessary trip to Japan and having to isolate for two weeks on return, what a shame that meant he would be unavailable to answer questions about how he established Robodebt, and expanded it in pursuit of his precious surplus. Pity his personal News Corpse photographer was only able to enter Scotty's iso to take a few vanity snaps for the hoi polloi, he really is a regular daggy dad bloke who's just trying his best give him a go he's only got a dozen media advisers.
Scotty from marketing looks to be changing his rhetoric on China now that Trump got his arse kicked out of the White House.
www.abc.net.au
Scott Morrison calls on United States and China to dial down hostilities
The Prime Minister urges the United States and China to show more "latitude" to smaller nations, saying Australia does not want to be forced into a "binary choice" between either superpower.
www.abc.net.au
Its a reasonable ethos but an odd way to raise it. The messaging is altogether too blunt and continues to position Australia in the middle.Scotty from marketing looks to be changing his rhetoric on China now that Trump got his arse kicked out of the White House.
Scott Morrison calls on United States and China to dial down hostilities
The Prime Minister urges the United States and China to show more "latitude" to smaller nations, saying Australia does not want to be forced into a "binary choice" between either superpower.
Regardless of his domestic politics, his international approach appears too jumpy and altogether too blunt
A definite change of tune from Morrison, he looks to be growing a set, as are more and more Republicans in the US.
ScoMo has found his voice now that Trump's legal challenge on the election looks certain to fail. Trump the tyrant has had them all walking on eggshells.
ScoMo has found his voice now that Trump's legal challenge on the election looks certain to fail. Trump the tyrant has had them all walking on eggshells.
"Yeah, ah, con itchy waah, Yoshi, mate. Sorry to drop in ya like this, things are a bit sad face emoji in the old dojo, if ya know what I mean. The wasabi's about to hit the sensu. Mind if I pull up a futon for a bit, just til she blows over? We could have some sarki, do a bit a karryokey, maybe catch a Sharkies replay... I guess what I'm saying is Yosihide me hahaha. How good's sushi! I make it for family sometimes, ya know, when the polls need a boost or the country's on fire hahahah Hey ya wanna teach me origami? That'd make a good pic..."
He's an opportunist. No principles. Sniffs the wind and goes where the money is.
When it comes to grifter scum, no one but no one outgrifts the scum that is John Barilaro, NSW deputy premier.
www.michaelwest.com.au
The video version, by friendlyjordies, who has been relentless on 'Super Barilaro Bruz':
A Barilaro Affair: how the Barilaros ended up with the Clubhouse when the Club went under - Michael West
Marco Polo Social Club in Queanbeyan was sold to a company run by the family of NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro.
www.michaelwest.com.au
The video version, by friendlyjordies, who has been relentless on 'Super Barilaro Bruz':
I am sure Morrison would be as generous with taxpayer funds if it was Rudd, or Turnbull seeking a spot on the OECD board.
www.abc.net.au
Luxurious Air Force jet ferrying Mathias Cormann around as he seeks post-political job
Just a fortnight into Mathias Cormann's global campaign to head an international economic body, the former finance minister and retired senator has clocked up more than 20,000 kilometres on a Royal Australian Air Force plane.
www.abc.net.au
I am sure Morrison would be as generous with taxpayer funds if it was Rudd, or Turnbull seeking a spot on the OECD board.
Luxurious Air Force jet ferrying Mathias Cormann around as he seeks post-political job
Just a fortnight into Mathias Cormann's global campaign to head an international economic body, the former finance minister and retired senator has clocked up more than 20,000 kilometres on a Royal Australian Air Force plane.
Snouts in the trough as usual.
DS
This is from the political party who famously called out about "Lifters & Leaners". They accused so many people of not doing their"Bit for the country".
Well stuff me what has this bunch of scummy bastards done for the good of their fellow Australians.
ABSOLUTELY F*#@1^# NOTHING.
They've ripped us off absolutely blind, whilst lining the pockets of their their wealthy benefactors.
I despise them for the scum bags they are.
They're a disgrace of a government.
We desperately need Federal ICAC, with genuine teeth.
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If it was Labor it would receive endless media coverage from the right wing media.
