Cricket

[mrposhman]

Could be an interesting finish here. If India can get to the new ball (17 overs away) without losing another wicket then they are right back in this. Could be approaching 250-260 by then and then who knows what could happen from there on in.

Would be a massive first 10 overs of the new ball for both sides. If the Aussies nab a couple of wickets then they are probably in front, if India negotiate it without much loss (maybe 1 wicket) then they are right in the game.

 

[Carter]

He flipped the bird to the crowd earlier in the day and obviously took the heckling to heart. Sometimes all it takes is a simple acknowledgement, a sign that the player is with them, to get the crowd onside.

Don't want to see a player getting emotionally destroyed, but can't help thinking that it had a bit to do with the game slipping away from India at the time (currently fighting back) and Siraj having 0/70 for the day.

perhaps Lee, perhaps. doesn't cost us much to be civil and dignified toward the poor lad though

 

[mrposhman]

lol, good luck with further education posh, it'll come in time

Haha trying to be the almighty I see.

If you are offended by something said to a person of colour, but they aren't, does that actually make it racist?? Or is this part of the issue, overly sensitive white guys telling people why they should be offended?

 

[Carter]

Haha trying to be the almighty I see.

If you are offended by something said to a person of colour, but they aren't, does that actually make it racist?? Or is this part of the issue, overly sensitive white guys telling people why they should be offended?

not almighty, just empathetic to your plight.

 

[mrposhman]

not almighty, just empathetic to your plight.

Sure you are. The Indians haven't claimed that term as being racist so why are you making it out to be racist???

 

[Carter]

Sure you are. The Indians haven't claimed that term as being racist so why are you making it out to be racist???

do they have to? casual racism is expressed in so many ways that people of colour often try to ignore it, which is the tragedy here.

stop being such a boofhead, posh. (although if you continue, I won't lose sleep

 

[Althom]

erp derp, I was just sayin' "shiraz", ya know? why are people so uptight? erp, it was just a bit of fun. larrikin aussie fun. I'm not racist, but ... derp.

and your point is? It's dumb and not overly inventive but to claim racism is absolute rubbish.

 

[Carter]

and your point is? It's dumb and not overly inventive but to claim racism is absolute rubbish.

yeah yeah, so they say eh?

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

perhaps Lee, perhaps. doesn't cost us much to be civil and dignified toward the poor lad though

Not my thing, if I go to the cricket I'm there to watch the game. But I don't support the cultural purge of humour (unless directed at an approved target) in this country. Upon being employed by the ABC, Ian Chappell seems to have forgotten writing Chappelli Has The Last Laugh ("Don't tell me no pork pies pal" etc).

 

[mrposhman]

do they have to? casual racism is expressed in so many ways that people of colour often try to ignore it, which is the tragedy here.

stop being such a boofhead, posh. (although if you continue, I won't lose sleep

You are a massive hypocrit though.

Just in the last few pages you have said that changing someones name is offensive yet find it funny when you chance Aarts to Farts as "farts are funny". So which is it? It doesn't matter whether its racist or offensive in another way. How do you know Aarts isn't offended by being called Farts? Its ok, because he's white??

And yet you are inferring other people are racist. Righto.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

do they have to? casual racism is expressed in so many ways that people of colour often try to ignore it, which is the tragedy here.

Come on now, don't go all Harry O.

 

[Carter]

You are a massive hypocrit though.

Just in the last few pages you have said that changing someones name is offensive yet find it funny when you chance Aarts to Farts as "farts are funny". So which is it? It doesn't matter whether its racist or offensive in another way. How do you know Aarts isn't offended by being called Farts? Its ok, because he's white??

And yet you are inferring other people are racist. Righto.

jeezus, reckon you need to reconsider your stance here. be very careful.

you are comparing these two examples as if in a petrie dish, a scientific experiment. apples to apples, as a scientist might say.

we do not live in a laboratory. a white man's experience (in this case, Jake Aarts) is vastly, VASTLY different to that of a person of colour (in this case, Mohammed Siraj).

and you want to apply the same behavior system? what you are describing is the schoolyard refuge of the willfully ignorant. it's embarrassing mate.

man oh man ... I will humbly back away.

 

[Althom]

jeezus, reckon you need to reconsider your stance here. be very careful.

you are comparing these two examples as if in a petrie dish, a scientific experiment. apples to apples, as a scientist might say.

we do not live in a laboratory. a white man's experience (in this case, Jake Aarts) is vastly, VASTLY different to that of a person of colour (in this case, Mohammed Siraj).

and you want to apply the same behavior system? what you are describing is the schoolyard refuge of the willfully ignorant. it's embarrassing mate.

man oh man ... I will humbly back away.

Put on a hair shirt, cover yourself in ashes, flog yourself with a flail and then run yourself out of town.

You know you want to

 

[Carter]

Come on now, don't go all Harry O.

you're better than that Lee. i like a lot of your posting on footy, unlike Posh, who is rather bland TBH

 

[Carter]

Put on a hair shirt, cover yourself in ashes, flog yourself with a flail and then run yourself out of town.

You know you want to

yup (whoever you are)

 

[Coburgtiger]

come on, Ezy and I can't the only ones who consider a white yobbo deliberately mis-pronouncing an Indian's name in public as problematic at best, casually racist at worst.

guess there's still a strong kneejerk defense for casual racism in our culture

Here's my take.

I've heard every sports supporter of any code change any players name which sounds like one thing into another.

It's the foundation of most nicknames at sporting clubs.

And it's not even a sporting thing. I'm a teacher with an Italian surname, and I've copped all sorts of variations on my last name from students. I've had Mr. Aioli (which only ever sounds like my name if you mispronounce it anyway), Mr. Ravioli, and a whole host of others. At no point have I considered it a racial comment, simply a 'heh your name sounds like this.'

Now you're right. Context matters. But the context is all that matters. What you said is that changing someone's name crosses a line, which is clearly stupid.

Was the context racist? I don't know. Maybe. Given the evacuation and the reports from the Indian players, probably. So address the context. But the line is crossed elsewhere.

Otherwise, given your casually racist treatment of our Aarts, you're going to have to own up to something.

'There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.'

 

[tigerman]

Strange post. You went back and dug something up when I’m clearly talking about a racial context?

And farts are funny.

Your argument differentiating Shiraz and Farts, doesn't pass the sniff test

 

[mrposhman]

jeezus, reckon you need to reconsider your stance here. be very careful.

you are comparing these two examples as if in a petrie dish, a scientific experiment. apples to apples, as a scientist might say.

we do not live in a laboratory. a white man's experience (in this case, Jake Aarts) is vastly, VASTLY different to that of a person of colour (in this case, Mohammed Siraj).

and you want to apply the same behavior system? what you are describing is the schoolyard refuge of the willfully ignorant. it's embarrassing mate.

man oh man ... I will humbly back away.

So you are claiming that offending someone by playing with their name if they are white is ok, but if they are black is not???

All people of colour want is to be treated THE SAME as everyone else, yet you don't seem to see that you are professing to doing the exact opposite.

 

[Carter]

Here's my take.

I've heard every sports supporter of any code change any players name which sounds like one thing into another.

It's the foundation of most nicknames at sporting clubs.

And it's not even a sporting thing. I'm a teacher with an Italian surname, and I've copped all sorts of variations on my last name from students. I've had Mr. Aioli (which only ever sounds like my name if you mispronounce it anyway), Mr. Ravioli, and a whole host of others. At no point have I considered it a racial comment, simply a 'heh your name sounds like this.'

Now you're right. Context matters. But the context is all that matters. What you said is that changing someone's name crosses a line, which is clearly stupid.

Was the context racist? I don't know. Maybe. Given the evacuation and the reports from the Indian players, probably. So address the context. But the line is crossed elsewhere.

Otherwise, given your casually racist treatment of our Aarts, you're going to have to own up to something.

'There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.'

I will apologize to Jake immediately. but farts are still funny

EDIT - and you get it too (most of it)

 

[Carter]

So you are claiming that offending someone by playing with their name if they are white is ok, but if they are black is not???

All people of colour want is to be treated THE SAME as everyone else, yet you don't seem to see that you are professing to doing the exact opposite.

oh man, where does one start?

your case is worse than I thought but you're in luck, many, many people out there who can help. not in here though

someone mentioned Andrew Bolt is a Richmond supporter - is that you?