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This is the last time I'm going to reiterate this... for now. But I'll return to smash you over the head with it.

Covid-19 vaccination no panacea (paywalled)

Covid-19 vaccination won’t be a panacea, Liberal MP Dave Sharma has warned, flagging ongoing restrictions even after the majority of the population has received the jab.

I wasn't aware Dave Sharma was an epidemiologist I thought he was a compromised Liberal politician.
 
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This is the last time I'm going to reiterate this... for now. But I'll return to smash you over the head with it.

Covid-19 vaccination no panacea (paywalled)

Covid-19 vaccination won’t be a panacea, Liberal MP Dave Sharma has warned, flagging ongoing restrictions even after the majority of the population has received the jab.

With the outbreak across Sydney amplifying concerns about the federal government’s sluggish rollout of the vaccine program, the Wentworth MP other countries with a higher vaccination rate — like Singapore — were in a more severe lockdown than Australia.

“Vaccination itself is not a cure; they’re going to need to be other measures that we keep in place as this disease also varies and changes and evolves,” Mr Sharma told Sky News.

“I wouldn’t want people to think that just once we get to a level of vaccination — yes, we’ll be closer to normal — but there is still going to need to be public health restrictions, movement restrictions and a few other things, because that’s what the overseas experience demonstrates to us.”

Thanks Dave Sharma for telling us what medical science has been telling us for the last year. As I've mentioned, C19 will become part of the viral load carried by humans for as long as we are on the planet. We can't eradicate the common cold (another coronavirus) we can't eradicate flu, why would we be able to eradicate C19?

This is the worst argument against the importance of vaccination you've run yet. Oh wait, the "we don't have a roadmap yet so no point doing anything" is the worst.

Pathetic strawman argument, go beat yourself over the head with it.
 
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This is the worst argument against the importance of vaccination you've run yet. Oh wait, the "we don't have a roadmap yet so no point doing anything" is the worst.
It's not "against" anything. It just is. Your whinging whining arse will still be in lockdown even after the majority are vaccinated.
 
This is the last time I'm going to reiterate this... for now. But I'll return to smash you over the head with it.

Covid-19 vaccination no panacea (paywalled)

Covid-19 vaccination won’t be a panacea, Liberal MP Dave Sharma has warned, flagging ongoing restrictions even after the majority of the population has received the jab.

With the outbreak across Sydney amplifying concerns about the federal government’s sluggish rollout of the vaccine program, the Wentworth MP other countries with a higher vaccination rate — like Singapore — were in a more severe lockdown than Australia.

“Vaccination itself is not a cure; they’re going to need to be other measures that we keep in place as this disease also varies and changes and evolves,” Mr Sharma told Sky News.

“I wouldn’t want people to think that just once we get to a level of vaccination — yes, we’ll be closer to normal — but there is still going to need to be public health restrictions, movement restrictions and a few other things, because that’s what the overseas experience demonstrates to us.”

The overseas experience??

Does he mean the state of New York for example, who got to 70% vaccination rates and then removed ALL covid restrictions?? Or the UK who is approaching that number and will be moving towards that within the next 2 weeks.

Hmmm not sure what "overseas experience" he is referencing.
 
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This is the last time I'm going to reiterate this... for now. But I'll return to smash you over the head with it.

Covid-19 vaccination no panacea (paywalled)

Covid-19 vaccination won’t be a panacea, Liberal MP Dave Sharma has warned, flagging ongoing restrictions even after the majority of the population has received the jab.

With the outbreak across Sydney amplifying concerns about the federal government’s sluggish rollout of the vaccine program, the Wentworth MP other countries with a higher vaccination rate — like Singapore — were in a more severe lockdown than Australia.

“Vaccination itself is not a cure; they’re going to need to be other measures that we keep in place as this disease also varies and changes and evolves,” Mr Sharma told Sky News.

“I wouldn’t want people to think that just once we get to a level of vaccination — yes, we’ll be closer to normal — but there is still going to need to be public health restrictions, movement restrictions and a few other things, because that’s what the overseas experience demonstrates to us.”
Thanks, good article. A liberal pollie saying vaccinations arent important has swayed me.
i guess the question is why is Morrison spending millions on them then?
 
This is the last time I'm going to reiterate this... for now. But I'll return to smash you over the head with it.

Covid-19 vaccination no panacea (paywalled)

Covid-19 vaccination won’t be a panacea, Liberal MP Dave Sharma has warned, flagging ongoing restrictions even after the majority of the population has received the jab.

With the outbreak across Sydney amplifying concerns about the federal government’s sluggish rollout of the vaccine program, the Wentworth MP other countries with a higher vaccination rate — like Singapore — were in a more severe lockdown than Australia.

“Vaccination itself is not a cure; they’re going to need to be other measures that we keep in place as this disease also varies and changes and evolves,” Mr Sharma told Sky News.

“I wouldn’t want people to think that just once we get to a level of vaccination — yes, we’ll be closer to normal — but there is still going to need to be public health restrictions, movement restrictions and a few other things, because that’s what the overseas experience demonstrates to us.”
Singapore are planning to do away with all restrictions and quarantine when vaccinations rates are higher. Looks like Sharma is talking *smile*, as usual.

Vaccination first, then reduce restrictions

Vaccination was key. The road map out of the current measures couldn’t begin until more people had been jabbed.

Singapore is set to have given two-thirds of its residents at least one jab within weeks and to have two thirds fully vaccinated by early August.

Singapore has recorded some fully vaccinated locals getting Covid-19, but none of them have had serious symptoms.
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Singapore’s ‘new covid normal’

The ministers said Covid-19 could be “tamed” if not vanquished.

They laid out what they called “a new normal”.

“In time, the airport, seaport, office buildings, malls, hospitals and educational institutions can use these kits to screen staff and visitors.”

People with covid would recover at home because symptoms will mostly be mild and close contacts would be vaccinated.

Because most cases will be less of an issue, the need for contact tracing and quarantining will be low.
 
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Theres been some incessant bagging on here from some over the VIc contact tracing. Throughout the recent lockdown that we have just had, almost every case daily came to be already in isolation. You could count the number of unknowns who weren't in iso on one hand (and you wouldn't have needed all your fingers).

I think yesterday NSW for 21 cases of which 12 were in ISO. Today NSW had 30 new cases of which only 11 were in isolation.

This is going to spike it would appear.

I think when you review the 2, if NSW is gold plated contact tracing, ours must be coated in platinum.
 
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It's not "against" anything. It just is. Your whinging whining arse will still be in lockdown even after the majority are vaccinated.

Whinging? Watching your arse get handed to you over your Dave Sharma post is great! Looking forward to you shooting your foot off again tomorrow.
 
The overseas experience??

Does he mean the state of New York for example, who got to 70% vaccination rates and then removed ALL covid restrictions?? Or the UK who is approaching that number and will be moving towards that within the next 2 weeks.

Hmmm not sure what "overseas experience" he is referencing.
Funny you say that. Just finished watching the Red Sox in Boston hand the Yankees their arse again for the 5th time in a row. Full capacity crowd.

Boston and Mass have about a 53% fully vaccinated rate. They’ve opened up. Only 14 cases over a rolling 7 day average.

NYC with its 70% and opened up had about 300 cases over a 7 day average with 25 hospitalisations currently. Much bigger city though with some 8 million people.
 
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Whinging? Watching your arse get handed to you over your Dave Sharma post is great! Looking forward to you shooting your foot off again tomorrow.
Let's see how Singapore goes first and resist going the early crow, shall we?

Locked down like a nun's chastity belt you'll be, you nasty little vaccinated leftie.
 
Let's see how Singapore goes first and resist going the early crow, shall we?

Locked down like a nun's chastity belt you'll be, you nasty little vaccinated leftie.
I never mentioned Singapore, you must be confused. But saying "you'll see, time will tell that I'm right" is the most incredibly impotent stance in any internet argument. You must feel so emasculated.

Locked-down again? So what? I've coped fine for a year and half so far. I like working from home and taking the dog for a walk through Richmond whenever I feel like it.

Anyways, good luck with the Pfizer - I assume you are still planning to get that when it's available.
 
Now a case in WA who picked it up from Sydney. Lockdown announced.
Looking forward to when Golden Gladys gets this under control..
Her reluctance to lock it up has put pressure on every other state in Australia.
She'll be popular the next national cabinet meeting..

Meanwhile how's the vaccine rollout going??
 
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