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no doubt.
Ange won't just coach any club in England. He will want to coach a club that is ambitious and buys into his philosophy unconditionally... finding the right club will be very difficult in such a cut-throat league. Maybe I'm biased, but I think Spurs would be a very good fit (not that I'm unhappy with Conte).
Socceroos play Japan tonight and can help book auto-qualification for Japan if we lose. Amazing when you think how poorly Japan started this set of games and how we gave up a point when we played them last and we were flying at that point. How the wheels have fallen of our campaign and how our preparations for a must win game has been an absolute joke.
I will watch but have no expectations on a win or even a draw tonight - how far Australian soccer has fallen in less than 12 months is astounding.
I will watch but have no expectations on a win or even a draw tonight - how far Australian soccer has fallen in less than 12 months is astounding.
There's some talk that FFA should take a risk. Be bold (rather than bland) and enquire with Marcelo Bielsa as to whether he would be interested in coaching the Australian national team. Rumour has it that before he signed to coach Leeds 3-4 years ago, there was a faction within FFA who were keen to approach him.
Yeah, our early qualifying form was misleading... we played mostly the weaker sides and did get good results. But it was flattering to deceive. Form really flipped after that Japan loss and yes, that really showed the tactical ineptness at the level from Arnie. TBF we don't have a great squad this time either.
Yeah I remember there was some chatter around that at the time. Would have loved it, Bielsa's approach needs time to work but I'd grab him right now if he was available.
Let's see tonight. We still have to play the Saudis away so third place is the most likely - we may not get through that as we have to play the 5th Conmebol side, currently that would be Uruguay, Peru or Chile - all tough and better than us I would say. The playoff is a one match affair hosted in Qatar this year due to the compressed schedule - that at least would probably benefit us as I don't think the South Americans have played there much.
In some ways it would be good to miss this year, it's Qatar, we ain't getting out of the group even if we make it, and it might put a rocket under the FFA.
Agree, the rot set in after the 1st game v Japan where a soporific display enabled easy relief for under pressure hosts. We never looked likely since.
I doubt we'll get past the 3rd placed nation in the other Asian group, let alone trouble a South American opponent to follow. Sadly, we don't deserve a place in the Qatar WC.
I doubt we'll get past the 3rd placed nation in the other Asian group, let alone trouble a South American opponent to follow. Sadly, we don't deserve a place in the Qatar WC.
Seriously, I'm starting to hope we don't qualify which might trigger a clean out of the Arnold loving Sydney FFA cancer that's sending us backwards at a rate of knots. For *smile* sake, we're debuting 34yo striker in Bruno Fornaroli?!?!?! What *smile* madness is that. Gets me so *smile* angry to see how far we've dropped over recent times. If the FFA has a tiger skin somewhere in their offices it's time to burn the *smile*.
Hoping we miss too. A *smile* place to play a world cup. More corrupt than anything FIFA has run before - and that's a pretty big task. And as you gents suggest, really don't deserve a place in the cup. We'll embarrass ourselves.
Fail to qualify. Clean the place out. Employ Marcelo Bielsa as the new coach which gives him time to work with the squad for the next Asian and World Cup cycles. Short term pain for long term gain.
where do i start? i have heaps to say...
Arnold has to go and has to go now. He is destroying this team.
Firstly he has his favourites he always selects (Duke, King, Grant, Redmayne, Wilkinson, Ryan, etc). It made Mitch Langerak retire (while Ryan was our best player last night, Langerak should be played ahead of him on form and playing minutes at club level). He failed to cap Cristian Volpato, who has now chosen Italy over Australia.
Secondly, I just don’t think he knows what he is doing. McLaren should have started. Stensness, Metcalfe and Hrustic are promising players and are part of our future but should not have been our starting midfield for such an important game. Fornaroli should have came on at half time knowing we had to score goals. Tilio on earlier as well.
Our system is useless. It’s a mish-mash of nothing. We struggled with their pressing. We couldn’t create in transition. Backwards passing when you need to go forward. There was no width. The wingers and fullbacks were not in the game at all. we left gaping holes in the midfield for Minamino to exploit (on another day he would have scored a hattrick). And the one real chance we had was fluffed by Mitch Duke (when McLaren or Fornaroli would have buried it). 2-0 flattered us. it should have been 5-1.
Away from the A-League, Arnold’s record is appalling. He only got the gig because his mates in the Sydney media hounded out Ange. If the guy had any integrity, he would walk away and let someone else take charge for the playoffs.
it all comes down to money. and Football Australia doesn't have any.
yet they still play last night’s game in a half full stadium no one likes going to. All of our home qualifiers were played in Sydney with the exception Vietnam at AAMI Park which sold out in 10 days. I was originally gonna head up for this game but decided not to out of principle (plus I knew we’d lose).
I am starting to believe James Johnson is as useless as his predecessors.
I have argued against the “missing the world cup will give us the kick up the bum we deserve” narrative. Partly because the qualifying money comes in handy, and partly because the game is struggling in Australia and we need our 2 weeks in the limelight.
But I think I am now starting to come around to it. Football Australia really needs rocket up them to ensure youth development gets the priority it deserves. Andy Harper had a massive crack after the game on CH10 and I agreed with every word of it.
Our opponent will be either UAE or Iraq. The game will be played in Qatar, so it’s virtually an away game for us. Its also a good time to remind people that UAE knocked us out of the last Asian Cup in 2019 (they were the host nation).
To Finish off, if he is consistent, we should be expecting Robbie Slater to call for his best mate’s head
Arnold has to go and has to go now. He is destroying this team.
Firstly he has his favourites he always selects (Duke, King, Grant, Redmayne, Wilkinson, Ryan, etc). It made Mitch Langerak retire (while Ryan was our best player last night, Langerak should be played ahead of him on form and playing minutes at club level). He failed to cap Cristian Volpato, who has now chosen Italy over Australia.
Secondly, I just don’t think he knows what he is doing. McLaren should have started. Stensness, Metcalfe and Hrustic are promising players and are part of our future but should not have been our starting midfield for such an important game. Fornaroli should have came on at half time knowing we had to score goals. Tilio on earlier as well.
Our system is useless. It’s a mish-mash of nothing. We struggled with their pressing. We couldn’t create in transition. Backwards passing when you need to go forward. There was no width. The wingers and fullbacks were not in the game at all. we left gaping holes in the midfield for Minamino to exploit (on another day he would have scored a hattrick). And the one real chance we had was fluffed by Mitch Duke (when McLaren or Fornaroli would have buried it). 2-0 flattered us. it should have been 5-1.
Away from the A-League, Arnold’s record is appalling. He only got the gig because his mates in the Sydney media hounded out Ange. If the guy had any integrity, he would walk away and let someone else take charge for the playoffs.
it all comes down to money. and Football Australia doesn't have any.
yet they still play last night’s game in a half full stadium no one likes going to. All of our home qualifiers were played in Sydney with the exception Vietnam at AAMI Park which sold out in 10 days. I was originally gonna head up for this game but decided not to out of principle (plus I knew we’d lose).
I am starting to believe James Johnson is as useless as his predecessors.
I have argued against the “missing the world cup will give us the kick up the bum we deserve” narrative. Partly because the qualifying money comes in handy, and partly because the game is struggling in Australia and we need our 2 weeks in the limelight.
But I think I am now starting to come around to it. Football Australia really needs rocket up them to ensure youth development gets the priority it deserves. Andy Harper had a massive crack after the game on CH10 and I agreed with every word of it.
Our opponent will be either UAE or Iraq. The game will be played in Qatar, so it’s virtually an away game for us. Its also a good time to remind people that UAE knocked us out of the last Asian Cup in 2019 (they were the host nation).
To Finish off, if he is consistent, we should be expecting Robbie Slater to call for his best mate’s head
Regarding your comment about the venue Ian. Did you notice the standard of the playing surface? Non league English sides, like Kidderminster Harriers and Boreham Wood are playing on better surfaces at their home grounds, in the depths of an English winter (as we saw during their FA Cup runs). It looked like a surface we might have seen international football played on, in the African nations cup in the 1970s.where do i start? i have heaps to say...
Arnold has to go and has to go now. He is destroying this team.
Firstly he has his favourites he always selects (Duke, King, Grant, Redmayne, Wilkinson, Ryan, etc). It made Mitch Langerak retire (while Ryan was our best player last night, Langerak should be played ahead of him on form and playing minutes at club level). He failed to cap Cristian Volpato, who has now chosen Italy over Australia.
Secondly, I just don’t think he knows what he is doing. McLaren should have started. Stensness, Metcalfe and Hrustic are promising players and are part of our future but should not have been our starting midfield for such an important game. Fornaroli should have came on at half time knowing we had to score goals. Tilio on earlier as well.
Our system is useless. It’s a mish-mash of nothing. We struggled with their pressing. We couldn’t create in transition. Backwards passing when you need to go forward. There was no width. The wingers and fullbacks were not in the game at all. we left gaping holes in the midfield for Minamino to exploit (on another day he would have scored a hattrick). And the one real chance we had was fluffed by Mitch Duke (when McLaren or Fornaroli would have buried it). 2-0 flattered us. it should have been 5-1.
Away from the A-League, Arnold’s record is appalling. He only got the gig because his mates in the Sydney media hounded out Ange. If the guy had any integrity, he would walk away and let someone else take charge for the playoffs.
it all comes down to money. and Football Australia doesn't have any.
yet they still play last night’s game in a half full stadium no one likes going to. All of our home qualifiers were played in Sydney with the exception Vietnam at AAMI Park which sold out in 10 days. I was originally gonna head up for this game but decided not to out of principle (plus I knew we’d lose).
I am starting to believe James Johnson is as useless as his predecessors.
I have argued against the “missing the world cup will give us the kick up the bum we deserve” narrative. Partly because the qualifying money comes in handy, and partly because the game is struggling in Australia and we need our 2 weeks in the limelight.
But I think I am now starting to come around to it. Football Australia really needs rocket up them to ensure youth development gets the priority it deserves. Andy Harper had a massive crack after the game on CH10 and I agreed with every word of it.
Our opponent will be either UAE or Iraq. The game will be played in Qatar, so it’s virtually an away game for us. Its also a good time to remind people that UAE knocked us out of the last Asian Cup in 2019 (they were the host nation).
To Finish off, if he is consistent, we should be expecting Robbie Slater to call for his best mate’s head
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I think in addition to your valid comment regarding AAMI Park. Hindmarsh in Adelaide and HBF Park in Perth also make for nice boutique experiences for these fixtures. They would likely sell out and be on a far better surface. If FFA are insistent on playing in Sydney. I would have thought the new incarnation of Parramatta Stadium (is it Commbank Stadium now?) would be preferable.
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where do i start? i have heaps to say...
Arnold has to go and has to go now. He is destroying this team.
Firstly he has his favourites he always selects (Duke, King, Grant, Redmayne, Wilkinson, Ryan, etc). It made Mitch Langerak retire (while Ryan was our best player last night, Langerak should be played ahead of him on form and playing minutes at club level). He failed to cap Cristian Volpato, who has now chosen Italy over Australia.
Secondly, I just don’t think he knows what he is doing. McLaren should have started. Stensness, Metcalfe and Hrustic are promising players and are part of our future but should not have been our starting midfield for such an important game. Fornaroli should have came on at half time knowing we had to score goals. Tilio on earlier as well.
Our system is useless. It’s a mish-mash of nothing. We struggled with their pressing. We couldn’t create in transition. Backwards passing when you need to go forward. There was no width. The wingers and fullbacks were not in the game at all. we left gaping holes in the midfield for Minamino to exploit (on another day he would have scored a hattrick). And the one real chance we had was fluffed by Mitch Duke (when McLaren or Fornaroli would have buried it). 2-0 flattered us. it should have been 5-1.
Away from the A-League, Arnold’s record is appalling. He only got the gig because his mates in the Sydney media hounded out Ange. If the guy had any integrity, he would walk away and let someone else take charge for the playoffs.
it all comes down to money. and Football Australia doesn't have any.
yet they still play last night’s game in a half full stadium no one likes going to. All of our home qualifiers were played in Sydney with the exception Vietnam at AAMI Park which sold out in 10 days. I was originally gonna head up for this game but decided not to out of principle (plus I knew we’d lose).
I am starting to believe James Johnson is as useless as his predecessors.
I have argued against the “missing the world cup will give us the kick up the bum we deserve” narrative. Partly because the qualifying money comes in handy, and partly because the game is struggling in Australia and we need our 2 weeks in the limelight.
But I think I am now starting to come around to it. Football Australia really needs rocket up them to ensure youth development gets the priority it deserves. Andy Harper had a massive crack after the game on CH10 and I agreed with every word of it.
Our opponent will be either UAE or Iraq. The game will be played in Qatar, so it’s virtually an away game for us. Its also a good time to remind people that UAE knocked us out of the last Asian Cup in 2019 (they were the host nation).
To Finish off, if he is consistent, we should be expecting Robbie Slater to call for his best mate’s head
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good rant Ian
oh no, that's two WCs in a row now. vaffanculo!
And Wales make it! Beating Austria 2:1
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This problem has nothing to do with competing with footy. Youth participation numbers have been higher than footy (much higher as a matter of fact) for 15-20 years now. The question we need to ask is why this doesn’t translate into better players at club level and Socceroos level?
The answer isn’t that simple. Youth pathways are a long way behind footy. Specialised coaches with appropriate licences cost money. Then you have greedy NPL teams who use the excessive fees to bring in prized recruits instead of using the money for youth development.
Then you also have lack of infrastructure. Sokkah never receives its fair share of government funding. Do you know how angry it makes me see footy getting hundreds of millions to upgrade Marvel and Kardinia park, while Melbourne Victory can’t even find a site for its Youth Academy? Even local councils play this game (I can give you a long-winded sook about the plight of Essendon Royals Soccer Club). Compare this to the money being spent in Asia (especially the middle east), and we just can't compete. The closure of the AIS many years ago has been massively bad for the game. .
A-League Academies are also a big issue. Every A-League club has an academy, but only a third of the clubs actually has a proper training site with proper infrastructure. Many teams borrow grounds off NPL teams.
Although putting all of that that side, I do think the youth coming through is a lot better than it was 10 years ago. Hrustic, King, Atkinson, Follami, Dalianov. Melbourne Victory have a kid by the name of Nishan Villupillay who has the technical ability to make it in a big league IMO. But like when you go to the draft in footy, it takes time to blood youth.
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