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Well I was the tech manager at Altona which has shut recently and bp shut recently too. Also refining nz closed recently and they (nz) have food grade co2 supply issues to put bubbles in their beer now. Who knew closing a refinery could mean no or expensive beer eh?

Apologies for destroying the nfl thread.

Clear why I’m a Texans supporter though with my oilers roots. (Plus lived / worked in Houston at ExxonMobil Baytown refinery)

United are interesting. No refinery. Some terminal assets and mainly retail. Not sure how well their franchisees do. Everyone I know who has worked there hates the culture and hasn’t lasted a year. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100195932
Name a thread that hasn't got side tracked and Mopsy will shout U a beer ;)

That's why U like the Texans aye :eyes


We seriously need a different team to do well from a different city, always it's like Boston's, LA, NY, San Fran, Philly. Some of the other big cities like Houston, Phoenix, San Diego need to move into the winning rings territory man, hope DeMeco goes well. The Astros have, time for the Texans and the Rockets as well :eyes

Fourth biggest city in the US - NY, LA, CHicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philly, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Jose the top 10.
 
Name a thread that hasn't got side tracked and Mopsy will shout U a beer ;)

That's why U like the Texans aye :eyes


We seriously need a different team to do well from a different city, always it's like Boston's, LA, NY, San Fran, Philly. Some of the other big cities like Houston, Phoenix, San Diego need to move into the winning rings territory man, hope DeMeco goes well. The Astros have, time for the Texans and the Rockets as well :eyes

Fourth biggest city in the US - NY, LA, CHicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philly, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Jose the top 10.
Vegas are/will be the new player in US sports.
 
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Yep. This was a while ago too. And 98 specific as well.

I watched a documentary on J D Rockefeller last night. The initial key to his insane success and fortune was creating a high “standard” of refining of crude oil for kerosine use.

You could have helped him back in the day and cashed in maybe !
What platform was the doco on?
 
For what? :unsure: Shyte franchises? :ROFLMAO::LOL:
Fast growing population. City has a lot of money.

In 5 years the Knights have already won a Conference title and 2 division titles in the NHL. They have a new football team. Won’t be long before they also have a basketball team.

In time, Vegas will be a strong sports town. They will blow past most small market cities in the US very quickly.
 
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Fast growing population. City has a lot of money.

In 5 years the Knights have already won a Conference title and 2 division titles in the NHL. They have a new football team. Won’t be long before they also have a basketball team.

In time, Vegas will be a strong sports town. They will blow past most small market cities in the US very quickly.
Yeah my only thing is the holiday 'hot spots' aren't producing many winning cultures lately.

People are either there on holidays or moving in and out of the place. They just don't have a passionate local population following them.

Miami apart from the Heat gone cold in NFL for many a year, Remember a Marino guy and not much since!!

Marlins started fast went cold last 20 years. Crowds from 3,000,000 in 1993, 2,300,000 in 97, to 811,000 in 2019, 900,000 in 2022.

Raiders no quarterback, good luck attracting people to watch them.

Our Gold Coast, yet to see A-League teams do well there, where's the Gold Coast Titans, been there for a while and nothing, the SUns - I'll believe it when I see it.

There's no culture in these spots - just tourists/holiday makers and people moving in and out for work.
 
Yeah my only thing is the holiday 'hot spots' aren't producing many winning cultures lately.

People are either there on holidays or moving in and out of the place. They just don't have a passionate local population following them.

Miami apart from the Heat gone cold in NFL for many a year, Remember a Marino guy and not much since!!

Marlins started fast went cold last 20 years. Crowds from 3,000,000 in 1993, 2,300,000 in 97, to 811,000 in 2019, 900,000 in 2022.

Raiders no quarterback, good luck attracting people to watch them.

Our Gold Coast, yet to see A-League teams do well there, where's the Gold Coast Titans, been there for a while and nothing, the SUns - I'll believe it when I see it.

There's no culture in these spots - just tourists/holiday makers and people moving in and out for work.
As someone who’s been there maybe 10 or 12 times, nothing could be further from the truth.

Vegas is a sprawling, fast growing city of 3 million people. It’s been a strong growing residential city with entrenched locals for a long time now. You should research the history of Vegas. They’ve wanted their own teams for ages.

Just because a lot of people visit Vegas, doesn’t mean the 3 million people there are visiting. There’s generations of families living there now. And unlike Florida or the GC - which has a large, checked out retired/elderly population - Vegas is a young energetic population. No comparison.

You are making the same mistake people made about Phoenix. Vegas is the new Phoenix - another place I’ve been to maybe 8 or 9 times since the 90’s and know equally well. It’s a duplicate happening right now.
 
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As someone who’s been there maybe 10 or 12 times, nothing could be further from the truth.

Vegas is a sprawling, fast growing city of 3 million people. It’s been a strong growing residential city with entrenched locals for a long time now. You should research the history of Vegas. They’ve wanted their own teams for ages.

Just because a lot of people visit Vegas, doesn’t mean the 3 million people there are visiting. There’s generations of families living there now. And unlike Florida or the GC - which has a large, checked out retired/elderly population - Vegas is a young energetic population. No comparison.

You are making the same mistake people made about Phoenix. Vegas is the new Phoenix - another place I’ve been to maybe 8 or 9 times since the 90’s and know equally well. It’s a duplicate happening right now.
Been to both, definitely prefer Phoenix, would go there again, the other place, miss me with that man :nono
 
Been to both, definitely prefer Phoenix, would go there again, the other place, miss me with that man :nono
I love both but Vegas wins - and by a margin. Vegas has more to do, is more centralised. Phoenix is very spread out and the key to getting around it - the 101 Freeway Loop - is a nightmare at times.
 
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I love both but Vegas wins - and by a margin. Vegas has more to do, is more centralised. Phoenix is very spread out and the key to getting around it - the 101 Freeway Loop - is a nightmare at times.
What's your best city over there, to visit? :unsure:
If you had to live there would probably be different? :unsure:
 
What's your best city over there, to visit? :unsure:
If you had to live there would probably be different? :unsure:
I love dozens and dozens of places over there. About the only place I haven’t liked that much is San Antonio. And also Albany. Oh and Miami as well. Vacuous, shallow and tacky place. Other than South Beach, not much to do or see there either.

But to answer your question, NYC. Always has been - although I could visit and live in a truckload of other cities in a heartbeat. Boston, Chicago, bunch of places in California, Charlestown SC, Vegas, Scottsdale and on and on.

To live well or comfortably in NYC you either need a lot of money or you need to be young and sharing accomodation and expenses. The cost of living there is BRUTAL and the work life and hours is brutal as well. Still, it’s the centre or heartbeat of the world as they say. People just make it work. It’s a different lifestyle all together.
 
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I am going to start a new thread…..and then immediately make a claim on this wonderful offer.

I actually had my fingers crossed while typing that. Took me a while too. Ever tried it? Give it a go, hardest thing you'll do today !!
 
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Interesting. Had you pegged as one of those boutique brewery toffy type's :D
Boutique/craft beer. A complete pox on society. Faux beer. Phoney.

For 1 drink only Gen Z’ers who wear tan loafers, no socks and short, tight trousers. You’ll see them in the Birdcage at Flemington.
 
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I love dozens and dozens of places over there. About the only place I haven’t liked that much is San Antonio. And also Albany. Oh and Miami as well. Vacuous, shallow and tacky place. Other than South Beach, not much to do or see there either.

But to answer your question, NYC. Always has been - although I could visit and live in a truckload of other cities in a heartbeat. Boston, Chicago, bunch of places in California, Charlestown SC, Vegas, Scottsdale and on and on.

To live well or comfortably in NYC you either need a lot of money or you need to be young and sharing accommodation and expenses. The cost of living there is BRUTAL and the work life and hours is brutal as well. Still, it’s the centre or heartbeat of the world as they say. People just make it work. It’s a different lifestyle all together.
Yeah everyone I know who's been says New York, hopefully get to go one day before my time is done here :eyes

And go to San Fran, shocking I never went to see Jerry play, that's the worst mistake of my life!! :cry:

That'll do me for over there.....aaargh and Boston for the Keltic's too man :LOL:

JT for Threeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! :eyes
 
Yeah everyone I know who's been says New York, hopefully get to go one day before my time is done here :eyes

And go to San Fran, shocking I never went to see Jerry play, that's the worst mistake of my life!! :cry:

That'll do me for over there.....aaargh and Boston for the Keltic's too man :LOL:

JT for Threeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! :eyes
Chicago is also a great city esp for sports.
 
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