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We have been through some of this before . Note I was in the health system during COVID.
1. The Victorian public health system was sent into many federally run aged care facilities to bail them out. I saw aged care nurses from public hospitals in tears from what they had seen in private federal funded aged care. State run aged care had way less cases, it was the shortfalls in private aged care that was the problem.
2. Hotel quarantine issues were not caused by what we think they were. Justice Dept ran them first and as soon as the medical care was put under public hospitals the COVID breaches stopped. The investigation into it was a farce. I have no doubt many decisions were made by bureaucrats and ministers didn’t know, because it was chaos at the time. Bureaucratic decision making was the issue.
3. Public hospitals were within a bees *smile* of being overwhelmed. Down to 2-3 days of masks and PPE and it was only the lockdown that stopped it happening. If that overrun of the public system had happened lots of people would have died
The is so much selective memory on COVID. What I recall is fear and confusion because there was no rule book. There were no right and wrong decisions at the time like there is in hindsight. There were people dying all over the world, no cure, no vaccine and everyone just did the best they could. The overwhelming feeling at the time in public hospitals was the lockdowns were the only thing between where they were and total chaos.
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My money is on the private sector. I reckon he wants to make some moneyPrime Minister Daniel Andrews.
Daniel Andrews, PM.
The Honourable Daniel Andrews, MP, Prime Minister of Australia.
Just rollin' it around.
Personal view only
No doubt we'll be kept up to date with what Andrews is doing post politics by the HUN. They hate the fact they couldn't destroy him and will forever see him as the enemy who must be taken down.
Maybe Mick Warner will do a 5-week in-depth investigative report on the steps, interviewing the original builders, delivery people who have used the steps, biomechanists who will be happy to claim Andrews' "slip" had to have been a push or a drunken fall.
Maybe Mick Warner will do a 5-week in-depth investigative report on the steps, interviewing the original builders, delivery people who have used the steps, biomechanists who will be happy to claim Andrews' "slip" had to have been a push or a drunken fall.
Was at a function earlier today n hearing that the Taswegian premier has chucked the toys out the cot, might just kill off their last chance at getting a billion dollar stadium built to house a Taswegian team.
Don't hold me liable coz it wasn't quite right, seems it was their attorney general got busted for bullying n walked the plank. Damn rushed info n suggestions, missed it by that much.
Bringing facts into the argument won't swing the RWNJs.
Mistakes were made, lockdown was a right pain, but it saved lives.
This is what the HUN and their cheer squad can't handle, the fact that the Andrews government was willing to take the difficult decisions and wear the consequences knowing that there were no right answers and that mistakes would happen. For that the government earned respect.
I have no problem with pointing out the mistakes, but the reality is that the response was very good in very difficult circumstances.
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Having worked in and around the state Public service one of the major things I learned about politicians is that they have very little influence on how well a job is done by the bureaucracy. Politicians have a major role in disrupting the bureaucracy as Departments spend way too much time gathering information and doing tasks because politicians want them done but they don't run the bureaucracy, public servants do.
They can influence the appointment of key staff including secretaries but when politicians (of all sides) accuse Ministers of "letting something happen" quite often they would not have been close enough to influence or even know about it.
Of course we have seen major policy positions carried out by government departments dictated by politicians, Robodebt was a great example of that, but generally that does not happen.
The disrupting influence of politicians on the bureaucracy has been turbo charged by Dan Andrews as Premier because his staff are so big and so demanding. But we shouldn't overestimate the amount of influence politicians have on day to day activities of the public sector and that included the times of COVID. The Department of Health and others carried out most of what happened daily.
