Didn't realise that the Hawks, The Edge and Dogs have so few picks.Taken from Zerohangar & re-ordered them.
Gold Coast 8, 11, 20, 29, 31, 48 5353
Fremantle 6, 12, 16, 27, 63 4901
Richmond 4, 24, 32, 41, 42, 50, 60, 62, 72 4771
North Melbourne 1, 21, 39, 57, 66 4586
Hawthorn 2, 26 3246
West Coast 3, 23, 59 3207
Adelaide 5, 34, 43, 61 2933
St Kilda 7, 38, 51, 52 2614
Melbourne 14, 35, 45, 46, 70 2400
Sydney 15, 19, 53, 71 2322
Brisbane 9, 47, 58, 65 2045
Essendon 10, 30 2024
Carlton 13, 33, 64, 67, 68 2004
GWS 18, 25, 56, 74 1935
Geelong 17, 37, 55, 73 1724
Collingwood 22, 40, 44 1636
Bulldogs 28, 49 964
Port Adelaide 36, 54, 69 771 LOL
oh well, if so, we'll end up with 9 draftees in the national draft instead.Talk that there may be a change to the academy and FS picks where clubs can't use stockpiled later picks to match bids. Just in time to screw us.
Surely thats introduced in 2025.Talk that there may be a change to the academy and FS picks where clubs can't use stockpiled later picks to match bids. Just in time to screw us.
Everyone knows it's coming because the system is *smile* broken due to constant fiddling n manipulating by HQ. Still in general thoughts n discussion mode at the moment so it'd be impossible for the suits to get anything up n running for this years draft. More than likely that they'll just make an announcement sometime later this year that they've got a rough draft ready for some proper think tank refinement that will be ready for next years draft while containing special amendments in preparation for the Tasweegie concessions.Talk that there may be a change to the academy and FS picks where clubs can't use stockpiled later picks to match bids. Just in time to screw us.
Given the F/S & NGA picks, I wonder how far back these picks of ours are pushed back?Now we have picks 4, 9, 12, 24.
Out of respect for our contracted superstar Shai Bolton, I'll discuss potential improvements to our draft hand in this thread.
We already have a stacked hand in this draft, and are likely to improve it through trading our suite of later picks for first-rounders to the likes of Carlton, Gold Coast, Adelaide, Brisbane, who all have highly-rated academy kids or father-sons.
Baker seems a big chance to go, delivering us another teens pick and probably a future second-rounder.
Bolton is worth at least a top-3 pick and another first-rounder. Woukd West Coast trade pick 1 and more to get him when they're a long way off contending? If Freo wants him, how do they get the currency required? Whichever side of the 'trade Shai' debate you're on, no number of teens picks (3 x pick 15 for a contracted superstar? GTFO!) is a good trade.
Then there's someone like Short. Potentially valuable to a contender. Taking a spot in our side that we could use to develop youth. Could get us a pick around 20.
Our current draft hand: 4, 24, 32, 41, 42, 50, 60, 62, 72
Let's say Baker goes to Freo. We'll have pick 12 (we won't get pick 6) and your future second, thanks.
What about Short? Brisbane might be interested in a backline kicker to replace Rich, and need to offload their first so they can get Ashcroft for peanuts. Short plus picks 32, 41, 42, 50, 60, 62, 72 for pick 9. Improves their points and gives them Short.
Now we have picks 4, 9, 12, 24.
And Shai.
Given the F/S & NGA picks, I wonder how far back these picks of ours are pushed back?
Early days of course but at this stage it's projecting something like: Ashcroft top 5, Lombard top 10, Welsh top 15, both Camporeales top 20-25.Given the F/S & NGA picks, I wonder how far back these picks of ours are pushed back?
Yeah, I erred on the side of generosity so I couldn't be accused of being fanciful. Phillips is a good idea, might take pick 24 though. Lalor would take pick 9 or 12 imo, and may not even last that long depending on his season.Good idea. I'm not sure we'd need to be giving all of those picks along with Short anyway. They are basically getting Short plus a 482 point improvement. 32 probably wouldn't need to go, basically means they get Short for a decrease in points of about 102, as you say could be traded for about pick 20, so from a pick value perspective thats a significant gain from dropping Pick 9 backwards.
Great start Spook.Out of respect for our contracted superstar Shai Bolton, I'll discuss potential improvements to our draft hand in this thread.
We already have a stacked hand in this draft, and are likely to improve it through trading our suite of later picks for first-rounders to the likes of Carlton, Gold Coast, Adelaide, Brisbane, who all have highly-rated academy kids or father-sons.
Baker seems a big chance to go, delivering us another teens pick and probably a future second-rounder.
Bolton is worth at least a top-3 pick and another first-rounder. Woukd West Coast trade pick 1 and more to get him when they're a long way off contending? If Freo wants him, how do they get the currency required? Whichever side of the 'trade Shai' debate you're on, no number of teens picks (3 x pick 15 for a contracted superstar? GTFO!) is a good trade.
Then there's someone like Short. Potentially valuable to a contender. Taking a spot in our side that we could use to develop youth. Could get us a pick around 20.
Our current draft hand: 4, 24, 32, 41, 42, 50, 60, 62, 72
Let's say Baker goes to Freo. We'll have pick 12 (we won't get pick 6) and your future second, thanks.
What about Short? Brisbane might be interested in a backline kicker to replace Rich, and need to offload their first so they can get Ashcroft for peanuts. Short plus picks 32, 41, 42, 50, 60, 62, 72 for pick 9. Improves their points and gives them Short.
Now we have picks 4, 9, 12, 24.
And Shai.
Yeh, but was a tad sensitive. Gotta be careful taking things too seriously on PRE.Disappointing he knew his stuff and good to have a variety of opinion.
Agree TT.If Freo received a first rounder and pick 34 for Lachie Shultz, I would not be impressed if we only received pick 12 for Bakes.
Bakes is far superior, vice captain and is a dual premiership player and can just about play anywhere.
Don't forget Freo received pick 6 and a third rounder for folding Cerra as well.
The Pies paid well overs for him so it probably isn't a good benchmark, but I agree that Bakes is a better player than LSIf Freo received a first rounder and pick 34 for Lachie Shultz, I would not be impressed if we only received pick 12 for Bakes.
Bakes is far superior, vice captain and is a dual premiership player and can just about play anywhere.
Don't forget Freo received pick 6 and a third rounder for folding Cerra as well.
Good post, I'm thinking along these lines and the Club would be as well.Out of respect for our contracted superstar Shai Bolton, I'll discuss potential improvements to our draft hand in this thread.
We already have a stacked hand in this draft, and are likely to improve it through trading our suite of later picks for first-rounders to the likes of Carlton, Gold Coast, Adelaide, Brisbane, who all have highly-rated academy kids or father-sons.
Baker seems a big chance to go, delivering us another teens pick and probably a future second-rounder.
Bolton is worth at least a top-3 pick and another first-rounder. Woukd West Coast trade pick 1 and more to get him when they're a long way off contending? If Freo wants him, how do they get the currency required? Whichever side of the 'trade Shai' debate you're on, no number of teens picks (3 x pick 15 for a contracted superstar? GTFO!) is a good trade.
Then there's someone like Short. Potentially valuable to a contender. Taking a spot in our side that we could use to develop youth. Could get us a pick around 20.
Our current draft hand: 4, 24, 32, 41, 42, 50, 60, 62, 72
Let's say Baker goes to Freo. We'll have pick 12 (we won't get pick 6) and your future second, thanks.
What about Short? Brisbane might be interested in a backline kicker to replace Rich, and need to offload their first so they can get Ashcroft for peanuts. Short plus picks 32, 41, 42, 50, 60, 62, 72 for pick 9. Improves their points and gives them Short.
Now we have picks 4, 9, 12, 24.
And Shai.